Old F1 Coverage
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DBSV8

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5,958 posts

267 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Apart from Duke Videos

is there anywhere to get copies of full televised grand prix's on DVD ,

Would like to see the 90s again Hill V Shumacker etc

cheers


motormania

1,143 posts

282 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Dare I say it, have you looked at torrents...

DBSV8

Original Poster:

5,958 posts

267 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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motormania said:
Dare I say it, have you looked at torrents...
They only appear to have the 2008 season , And I can"t down load at work !!

Has anyone got any copies of the 1990 -2007 season ?

cheers

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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racing-underground looks good, I have heard it mentioned here in the past. I'd like to get an account but I don't have an invitation code cry

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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I have a fair few on VHS I'm trying to get rid off, if anyone wants them........

FOC to good home.

Nick

DBSV8

Original Poster:

5,958 posts

267 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Nicholas Blair said:
I have a fair few on VHS I'm trying to get rid off, if anyone wants them........

FOC to good home.

Nick
can you Pm me details

cheers

White-Noise

5,500 posts

277 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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DangerousMike said:
racing-underground looks good, I have heard it mentioned here in the past. I'd like to get an account but I don't have an invitation code cry
Great site!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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The official FOCA VHS/DVDs cover all the seasons from 1981 to the present.

Prior to that, the coverage of GPs is much more intermittent with much of the original TV footage (if the race was actually televised - they weren't all covered by TV) lost, wiped or just not available for legal reasons.

The Marlboro/Brunswick film collection covers the 1970 to 1980 seasons. The commentaries aren't always great and not all races in each season were covered, The footage was shot using a dedicated team of cameramen so the images are not those from what would have been broadcast on TV. However, they are often the only films around of certain races.

Before 1970 the situation is even more patchy with most footage being dependent on TV film reports or cinema newsreel. There is the odd gem, like the Shell Motorsport series and the classic "Nine Days in Summer" which looks at the introdution of the Ford DVF in 1967.


White-Noise

5,500 posts

277 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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The good thing about that racing underground site is that it has the original commentary as if you watched it on TV. I am assuming that (understandably) the DVD/VHS of each season doesnt have that which to me makes it loose some of the old magic.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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The FOCA ones don't - although the ones narrated by Clive James (1982 and 1983) are quite entertaining.

DBSV8

Original Poster:

5,958 posts

267 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
The FOCA ones don't - although the ones narrated by Clive James (1982 and 1983) are quite entertaining.
are these full length races or highlights ? I dont want a 90min DVD covering the entire 1990 session !

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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They are highlights.

Not all the races exist anymore in their full lengths - especially the further back in time you go.

As I said earlier, some races were never even covered by TV.

Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 14th December 12:00

hifihigh

590 posts

230 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Like others have said racing underground site has a good helping of 90's races available. You could then use something like dvd flick to turn the video into a dvd image.

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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White-Noise said:
DangerousMike said:
racing-underground looks good, I have heard it mentioned here in the past. I'd like to get an account but I don't have an invitation code cry
Great site!
How do you go about getting an invitation code? do you have to be invited by an existing member? if so how do we find out who's a member ?? all very cloak and dagger. I'm assuming you're a member white-noise .. ?

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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yes, i'd like a code if poss.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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trackcar said:
White-Noise said:
DangerousMike said:
racing-underground looks good, I have heard it mentioned here in the past. I'd like to get an account but I don't have an invitation code cry
Great site!
How do you go about getting an invitation code? do you have to be invited by an existing member? if so how do we find out who's a member ?? all very cloak and dagger. I'm assuming you're a member white-noise .. ?
Probably because what they sem to be doing is illegal. FOCA and Bernie's company hold the TV rights for all F1 coverage from 1981 onwards.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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illegal but not exactly immoral, Eric smile

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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No, but morals don't tend to get challenged in court - breach of copyright does.

I'm not stanfding up for Bernie by the way (far from it) but he does make a habit of having a go at those who infringe on his legal rights.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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fair enough Eric - I was just saying unlike with films etc. for which you can generally purchase legitimate copies of long after they were first aired/shown, downloading recordings of sporting events is much less morally dubious.

In any case, if I'm unlikely to get caught I tend to abide by my own morals and ethics and ignore what the law says on the matter.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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I'm sure half of what is on youtube breaches some copyright somewhere. At the moment Bernie tends to just threaten and get F1 footage pulled off the internet. I don't think he has actually sued anyone yet, but the risk is there.

It will be interesting to see how much F1 footage from the 2008 season BBC will be able to show in their Sports Personality of the Year awards.