F1 rules change

[flasher]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

unreal. So consistency and reliability no longer matter?

I'm not so sure I like it.

[Nic Jones]

That sounds utterly st.

whatever happened to consistency? Hamilton may not have won as many as Massa (partly due to the stewards) but he was more consistent in all conditions than Massa.

[andyps]

The budget cap rule seems wrong. If a team agrees to spend less it can do more development. Where will the budget come from for that development?

The points system is wrong. No "seems" about it. It means a driver on 50 points could beat a driver on 100. Just go balls out for a few wins and not worry about the other races.

[Muzzlehatch]

Nic Jones said:

Hamilton may not have won as many as Massa (partly due to the stewards) but he was more consistent in all conditions than Massa.

Hamilton actually won more races than Massa, but we all know about that.

Regarding budgets and effectively having different classes of car, what a bunch of cock. No doubt the larger teams will buy in technology for £1 from a "partner", which itself might have secondary investment from a firm that also happens to sponsor the team. If you catch my drift

More nonsensical meddling, as usual.

Edited by Muzzlehatch on Tuesday 17th March 14:14

[DSM2]

Final definitive proof, if it were needed, that the FIA is broken. If I didn't know better I would think this release was aimed for two weeks tomorrow.

[Nic Jones]

The worst bit?

FOTA don't pull together and stand up for themselves against Mad Max and his cronies.

[nutta29]

what a load of ste!

keke rosberg would never have been champion if these rules applied back then!

why is it that F1 is one of the only sports where there is a rule change every year! its daft

[Al W]

BBC article said:

To improve clarity, wet tyres have also been renamed "intermediates"... and extreme weather tyres are now called "wet".

Genuis. You couldn't make this stuff up... obviously wet and extreme wet would be really confusing.

Am I alone in seeing a contradiction between the new demands of the FIA, almost like the deranged ramblings of a madman?
On one hand, engines etc must be made to last longer to save money, but on the other hand they're now telling the teams it's sh*t or bust time chasing wins.

[Martial Arts Man]

I hope that a driver, any old driver, wins the first 9 races in a row.

Then Mad Max will be gone.......

[james_tigerwoods]

So if Driver A has 70 points and Driver B has 60 points, but Driver B won 6 races and Driver A won (say) 3 - Driver B would be crowned champion?

What happened to "he who gets the most points wins"? Bring back 10-6-4-3-2-1

In fact, bring back Active suspension, turbos and mahoosive wings

[Derek Smith]

Don't look for logic. Remember there's a war going on between Mosley on one side and the manufacturers and FOTA on the other. It's almost as if, in rejecting the much more sensible FOTA change, Mosley is trying to show that he is still in charge. The £30M limit might well be seen as an attack on those teams which demanded that he leave the FiA after bringing the sport into disrepute by going with prostitutes.

The sport is safer in the hands of FOTA with the FiA policing the rules. As it is now we have Mosley/FiA in absolute control. And you kow what they say about absolute power and corruption.

At the moment Mosley would appear to have lost the support of Ferrari which is a major blow to him. So instead of courting them, he seems to be attacking them.

Whatever happens though, F1 is suffering. We have empty circuits in countries with no history of GP racing. We have ridiculous rules and regs, and we have had what appears to be in many people's eyes partial interpretation. It doesn't matter whether the FiA/Mosley has been partial or not. In a sport that is all image, tarnished as it is by Mosley's sordid activities in Chelsea basements, if there is a suspicion then the whole thing crumbles.

This two-tier racing is nothing more than a handicap race. How farcical is that? And who is going to police the budgets? Mosley? Do me a favour.

[Muzzlehatch]

Martial Arts Man said:

I hope that a driver, any old driver, wins the first 9 races in a row.

Then Mad Max will be gone.......

You really think so?

After last year's antics I honestly believe that nothing can make him go, however insane his actions are. His quasi-supporters simply cannot vote against him for fear of him revealing their similarly dark secrets. Justice Eady included.

[Bombjack]

Derek Smith said:

And who is going to police the budgets? Mosley? Do me a favour.

That does seem a difficulty. I wouldn't be surprised if the FIA were (reluctantly) forced to levy a much increased fee from the teams in order to fund the accountancy regime needed.

[MartG]

Under the old points system, it was very unlikely that the championship would be decided until well into the final third of the season, especially if several drivers are scoring 2nd/3rd etc. places consistently. However under the new 'win or bust' system it's perfectly possible for the championship to be decided from halfway through the season - does the FIA really think the teams/drivers will be really racing for the rest of the season rather than just turning up and running the cars to comply with their contract ?

They reckon it will promote overtaking, but as we have seen in the last few years folk who overtake tend to get penalised for other reasons. Not to mention that if it is win or bust then we may see more accidents due to overambitious overtaking attempts.

At the end of the day, if a driver wins 10 races and DNFs another 10 he'll be champion even if the next placed guy won 9 and came 2nd 11 times, but IMHO that doesn't make him the best

[stifler]

Derek Smith said:

Don't look for logic. Remember there's a war going on between Mosley on one side and the manufacturers and FOTA on the other.

Reminds me of 1982. FISA/FOCA Jean-Marie Baelstre. Who was the saviour that got rid of Baelstre?

[mollytherocker]

My initial thought about the most wins rule was that it would be fantastic and create some epic battles between 1st and 2nd runners. But after reading some of your thoughts Im not so sure now!!!

I think the success of this will depend on the relative performances of the teams and the stewards views on what is an acceptable overtaking manoevre (How the hell do you spell that!!!)

MTR

[dafeller]

james_tigerwoods said:

So if Driver A has 70 points and Driver B has 60 points, but Driver B won 6 races and Driver A won (say) 3 - Driver B would be crowned champion?

What happened to "he who gets the most points wins"? Bring back 10-6-4-3-2-1

In fact, bring back Active suspension, turbos and mahoosive wings

I was thinking this today. Heck, I'm in favor of bringing back six wheels and ground effects, too.

I'm starting a new thread.

[DaveShark]

why is it that F1 is one of the only sports where there is a rule change every year! its daft
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+1

Seems an odd rule, but I forsee some good racing this year, followed by a lot of arguing!!

[stephen300o]

Will this be back dated?

[andyps]

stifler said:

Derek Smith said:

Don't look for logic. Remember there's a war going on between Mosley on one side and the manufacturers and FOTA on the other.

Reminds me of 1982. FISA/FOCA Jean-Marie Baelstre. Who was the saviour that got rid of Baelstre?

Mosley might have been right when he took over from Balestre (and I think at the time he was) but his time is now obviously past. Hence my thread "Please, please......"

I fully agree with Derek, it is MM using absolute power to say that he doesn't give a flying fk about the sport, the teams or the fans. If they mess with him, he will mess with them, and has done so today. Having got his way after the non-Nazi orgy publicity last year he obviously thinks he is invincible.