what are they investigating Brawn for?
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CatherineJ said:
Well if the Brawn's get disqualified which I very much doubt, then Hamilton get's the 1st place.
They won't and he won't.The stewards declared the Brawns (and the Williamses and the Toyotas for that matter) legal to race. So they are legal. Some other teams are appealing that decision (but the hearing isn't for 2 weeks), so up until that point they will continue to remain legal.
If the diffusers are declared illegal at the appeal hearing (and the general opinion of the pitlane is that they won't be), then the 3 teams will have to modify them, but as they were declared legal by the Melbourne stewards, no results will be altered and the victory and points will stand.
Todays race demonstrated that the 'standard diffusers' didn't stop Red Bull and BMW running right in amongst Brawn & Toyota with Williams although quick at times were generally slower.
With this in mind, the protested diffusers are legal to the letter and offer no significant performance advantage.
I can't see them being banned.
With this in mind, the protested diffusers are legal to the letter and offer no significant performance advantage.
I can't see them being banned.
timbob said:
CatherineJ said:
Well if the Brawn's get disqualified which I very much doubt, then Hamilton get's the 1st place.
They won't and he won't.The stewards declared the Brawns (and the Williamses and the Toyotas for that matter) legal to race. So they are legal. Some other teams are appealing that decision (but the hearing isn't for 2 weeks), so up until that point they will continue to remain legal.
If the diffusers are declared illegal at the appeal hearing (and the general opinion of the pitlane is that they won't be), then the 3 teams will have to modify them, but as they were declared legal by the Melbourne stewards, no results will be altered and the victory and points will stand.
Then again, the FIA aren't always hell bent on fairness in sport, now are they?
Anyone notice the rear of the Red Bull and Torro Rosso's (those 4 identical cars? 
). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.
). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.FourWheelDrift said:
Anyone notice the rear of the Red Bull and Torro Rosso's (those 4 identical cars? ). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.
I read that the Red bull have pull-rod, rather then push-rod rear suspension, which makes a larger diffuser impossible. Maybe that was what you saw). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.No the rear wing end plates are much bigger than on others, they go right down to floor height.
Red Bull - http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/2/large/2009-red-...
For comparison (some big images) the others all finish above the height of the centre of the rear wheels.
BMW - http://totocaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2...
McLaren - http://www.f1-site.com/wallpapers/2009/presentatio...
Ferrari - http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2009/def/2009-Fe...
Red Bull - http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/2/large/2009-red-...
For comparison (some big images) the others all finish above the height of the centre of the rear wheels.
BMW - http://totocaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2...
McLaren - http://www.f1-site.com/wallpapers/2009/presentatio...
Ferrari - http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2009/def/2009-Fe...
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Sunday 29th March 23:21
FourWheelDrift said:
Anyone notice the rear of the Red Bull and Torro Rosso's (those 4 identical cars? ). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.
The RBR and STR have a completely different back end design to the other cars, with a very tight and compact rear, the aim being to improve airflow speed over the top of the car.). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.AlexS said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Anyone notice the rear of the Red Bull and Torro Rosso's (those 4 identical cars? ). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.
The RBR and STR have a completely different back end design to the other cars, with a very tight and compact rear, the aim being to improve airflow speed over the top of the car.). They both have a rear end plates that go down in height as far as the rear diffuser, alomost down the track level. No one else is doing this. I wonder if Speccy Newey has come up with a rear end solution without tweaking the diffuser. Using something else such as the end plates on the rear wing to get better air flow at the back and create better rear end grip without going down the diffuser route. No one else seems to be doing this.Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff