Stop the FIA spoiling this years champs
Stop the FIA spoiling this years champs
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new in today

Original Poster:

251 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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Mclaren screwed up sure but the third place was technically theirs. Wether Trulli thought Hamilton had let him passed or Trulli had overtaken of his own accord the rules state that Trulli was NOT allowed to repass Hamilton under the safety car.

The FIA have conveniently forgotten this as they are too busy once again having a feeding frenzy over Mclaren.

The FIA are extremely unedyfying to watch rather like a school bully picking on the odd kid at school.

Some people stand around and let it happen whilst others step in and put things right.

I want to put things right.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/StoptheFIA/

Get signing boys


Edited by new in today on Friday 3rd April 22:55

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Nice one for good initiative, but we all know what the FIA think of the fans, and the teams (bar Ferrari, of course). The fans didn't want to see winner takes all instead of points, and neither did the teams, who presented a much simpler way of deciding the champ, but no, they went ahead and did it anyway, only to have "forgotten" their own rule that the teams must unanimously (sp?) agree, which they didn't.
Unfortunately, until Bernie and Spank are out, McLaren will always be the FIA's whipping boys to dish out pointless punishments to ages after the race is over, conveniently handing the advantage to Maranello. But think of it this way, it just made Lewis' 2008 victory much sweeter, and hopefully when McLaren get their rear aero package sorted, they will stick two fingers up to the establishment once more.

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Probably needs rewording from McLaren to all teams - easy to forget the unjust penalty on Boudais for Massa - so it will seem biased from British fans which just won't cut it.

I still say it's a banner campaign at whatever GP you go to. They get on TV for a start and witty ones usually get a special mention... Yes, I'm plotting for the British GP already! The bummer for the FIA is that I'm there for all 3 days too. hehe

new in today

Original Poster:

251 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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mattikake said:
Probably needs rewording from McLaren to all teams - easy to forget the unjust penalty on Boudais for Massa - so it will seem biased from British fans which just won't cut it.

I still say it's a banner campaign at whatever GP you go to. They get on TV for a start and witty ones usually get a special mention... Yes, I'm plotting for the British GP already! The bummer for the FIA is that I'm there for all 3 days too. hehe
McLaren removed.. smile

Oh yes the Penalty on Bourdais.. hmm an unjust penalty that beneffited Ferrari...who would have thought it?

angryS3owner

15,855 posts

258 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Assuming Hamilton did lie, they deserve everything they got.

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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angryS3owner said:
Assuming Hamilton did lie, they deserve everything they got.
and it more and more looks like he did, sadly................

new in today

Original Poster:

251 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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angryS3owner said:
Assuming Hamilton did lie, they deserve everything they got.
So you agree with the principal that the World Championship is decided by words said off track rather than by the physical position of the racecars on the track.

Lets just scrap the expense of putting the cars on the track and have a fantasy league where finishing positions are decided first by random selection and then by lawyers arguing.

It looked like both Trulli and Hamilton finished according to interpretation either 3rd or 4th but due to the post race comedy hour both have been subject to penalties.

I can only hope the FIA see fit to remove Hamiltons Penalty as quickly as they reinstated Trulli.

The FIA have admitted he was put in a difficult position by his team so the question has to remain.. why was Hamilton personally punished.

Fine the team,,great... ruin the Championship...

Well lets just toss coins shall we and see who wins


angryS3owner

15,855 posts

258 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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bks, it's all artificial when it's behind the safety car anyway, if it wasn't for the safety car Hamilton wouldn't have got past Trulli anyway.

The point is, you don't lie end of story if you ask me.

Yes there have been stupid and dodgy decisions but this one I actually agree with.

The outcome of the aero 'hearing' will be the one that had potential to really piss me off.

new in today

Original Poster:

251 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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angryS3owner said:
bks, it's all artificial when it's behind the safety car anyway, if it wasn't for the safety car Hamilton wouldn't have got past Trulli anyway.

The point is, you don't lie end of story if you ask me.

Yes there have been stupid and dodgy decisions but this one I actually agree with.

The outcome of the aero 'hearing' will be the one that had potential to really piss me off.
So Schuey didn't lie about 'parking' his car at Monaco, or punting Damon Hill or allowing Barichello through or..


TonyToniTone

3,928 posts

278 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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new in today said:
So Schuey didn't lie about 'parking' his car at Monaco
didnt that get sorted there and then?

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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his punishment was for the act, not the lying.

they found he parked on purpose and penalised him for that, there was no penalty for talking bks infront of the stewards.

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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angryS3owner said:
bks, it's all artificial when it's behind the safety car anyway, if it wasn't for the safety car Hamilton wouldn't have got past Trulli anyway.

The point is, you don't lie end of story if you ask me.

Yes there have been stupid and dodgy decisions but this one I actually agree with.

The outcome of the aero 'hearing' will be the one that had potential to really piss me off.
Well said, he fked up, he got punished, end of.

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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DangerousMike said:
his punishment was for the act, not the lying.
Aint that the truth. wink

At what point does lying become a punishable crime in itself? Trying to gain an advantage? Schumi did so to stop a penalty, which is about not getting a disadvantage, therefore, to maintain the advantage he gained over his competitors. Maybe then it's when it's about trying to get a fellow competitor in the st?

TonyToniTone

3,928 posts

278 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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DangerousMike said:
his punishment was for the act, not the lying.

they found he parked on purpose and penalised him for that, there was no penalty for talking bks infront of the stewards.
He was punished there and then - are you of the opinion Hamilton should not have been punished?

//j17

5,075 posts

252 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Personally I feel the stewards got this one right...eventually.

If nothing else, if you're going to knowingly omit crucial information to try and 'steal' a position doing it AFTER going on record (pit/car radio and press interviews) with a different story should get you a kicking for stupidity!

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Haven't we had this thread already?

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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DangerousMike said:
his punishment was for the act, not the lying.

they found he parked on purpose and penalised him for that, there was no penalty for talking bks infront of the stewards.
No it wasnt

His penalty was for misleading the stewards.

Not for allowing Trulli past him

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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freedman said:
DangerousMike said:
his punishment was for the act, not the lying.

they found he parked on purpose and penalised him for that, there was no penalty for talking bks infront of the stewards.
No it wasnt

His penalty was for misleading the stewards.

Not for allowing Trulli past him
This was the Schuey parking incident smile

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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stephen300o said:
freedman said:
DangerousMike said:
his punishment was for the act, not the lying.

they found he parked on purpose and penalised him for that, there was no penalty for talking bks infront of the stewards.
No it wasnt

His penalty was for misleading the stewards.

Not for allowing Trulli past him
This was the Schuey parking incident smile
Aha...

getmecoat

El Guapo

2,787 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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new in today said:
Mclaren screwed up
That is the only part of your post that I agree with.