RE: Aston Martin Snatch Le Mans Series Win
RE: Aston Martin Snatch Le Mans Series Win
Monday 6th April 2009

Aston Martin Snatch Le Mans Series Win

Lola Aston Martin's new LMP1 car wins on Le Mans Series debut



Aston Martin’s new LMP1 car has secured a maiden victory in its first Le Mans Series outing, during the Catalunya 1000km in Barcelona.

Two Aston LMP1 cars were challenging for honours at the race, but the 007 car of Charouz/Enge/Mücke eventually took the chequered flag first after qualifying in third place and having to battle hard in the closing stages of the race.

A spin from sister car 009 (Primat/Ramos/Turner) 40 minutes before the chequered flag forced a safety car period, that allowed Mücke to take advantage of the bunched pack and claim the lead with 20 minutes to go. Mücke then ran on to secure the win with a lead of 14.8 seconds over the Pescarolo Sport Judd car.

Both cars were unaffected by mechanical problems during the race, and until Ramos spun the 009 car both LMP1 racers were running in the top three.

“I obviously have mixed emotions” Ramos said. “I’m very disappointed and sorry for what happened when I was in the car, but I am delighted for the team.”

The Le Mans race series continues on 8 May with the 1000km of Spa.

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souffwest

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153 posts

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Monday 6th April 2009
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Modena babbby.

ellroy

7,835 posts

254 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Good stuff, but no LMP1 oil burners to compare it to.....

Mr.Jimbo

2,084 posts

212 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Will certainly be interesting at LeMans this year then biggrin can't wait...

dandarez

14,014 posts

312 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Is it THAT hard to mention GINETTA?
First ever Le Mans for the marque.
On POLE for start on Sunday and had to begin race real with flat spot tyre. Still came 5th overall and second Ginetta Zytec LMP2 cames second in class, just beaten by Lola-Judd.

Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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dandarez said:
Is it THAT hard to mention GINETTA?
First ever Le Mans for the marque.
On POLE for start on Sunday and had to begin race real with flat spot tyre. Still came 5th overall and second Ginetta Zytec LMP2 cames second in class, just beaten by Lola-Judd.
Must be. They're obviously just not as sexy as the Lola's in the dodgy shade of blue.

The start was decidedly dodgy as well (apparently the Ginetta braked upon seeing the green light...)

The Kolles Audi's were surprisingly lack lustre pace wise as well.

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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ellroy said:
Good stuff, but no LMP1 oil burners to compare it to.....
Apart from the two Audi R10s wink

H22K

182 posts

218 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Nick M said:
ellroy said:
Good stuff, but no LMP1 oil burners to compare it to.....
Apart from the two Audi R10s wink
last I checked, R10s weren't LMP class ;-)

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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H22K said:
Nick M said:
ellroy said:
Good stuff, but no LMP1 oil burners to compare it to.....
Apart from the two Audi R10s wink
last I checked, R10s weren't LMP class ;-)
???

I think you'll find they are... Audi R10 TDi = LM P1 class

PulsatingStar

1,719 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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H22K said:
Nick M said:
ellroy said:
Good stuff, but no LMP1 oil burners to compare it to.....
Apart from the two Audi R10s wink
last I checked, R10s weren't LMP class ;-)
Probably best check again then ;-)

Rotorspeed

441 posts

221 months

Dr Imran T

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228 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Audi run the R15 now not the R10 I believe. The R15 is an LMP1.

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Dr Imran T said:
Audi run the R15 now not the R10 I believe. The R15 is an LMP1.
The factory runs R15. Two R10s are run by the private Kolles team, who struggled a bit.

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Dr Imran T said:
Audi run the R15 now not the R10 I believe. The R15 is an LMP1.
But the Kolles Racing team are running last year's Audi R10s in the Le Mans Series.

Audi (Team Joest) are only running the R15 at Sebring and Le Mans (although it would be great to see them running some more later in the year as well).


chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Ahonen said:
Dr Imran T said:
Audi run the R15 now not the R10 I believe. The R15 is an LMP1.
The factory runs R15. Two R10s are run by the private Kolles team, who struggled a bit.
I used to go to school with Andy Meyrick, who's racing for Kolles. Any idea how he did at the weekend?

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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chevronb37 said:
Ahonen said:
Dr Imran T said:
Audi run the R15 now not the R10 I believe. The R15 is an LMP1.
The factory runs R15. Two R10s are run by the private Kolles team, who struggled a bit.
I used to go to school with Andy Meyrick, who's racing for Kolles. Any idea how he did at the weekend?
8th in LM P1 and overall.

ellroy

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254 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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i was referring to the factory lmp1 teams, privateers in last years cars don't really give a true indication of Aston being in with a shout come june or not. I suspect they'll do well against the petrol cars, but that Audi/Peugeot may well have the legs on them. More's the pity.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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ellroy said:
i was referring to the factory lmp1 teams, privateers in last years cars don't really give a true indication of Aston being in with a shout come june or not. I suspect they'll do well against the petrol cars, but that Audi/Peugeot may well have the legs on them. More's the pity.
Looking good for a win in the 5th 'petrol class' as some of the enthusiasts call it smile

Edited by zac510 on Tuesday 7th April 21:46

Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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zac510 said:
ellroy said:
i was referring to the factory lmp1 teams, privateers in last years cars don't really give a true indication of Aston being in with a shout come june or not. I suspect they'll do well against the petrol cars, but that Audi/Peugeot may well have the legs on them. More's the pity.
Looking good for a win in the 5th 'petrol class' as some of the enthusiasts call it smile
Discount the Ginetta's at your peril I think. I feel they're going to get faster and faster as the season progresses.

I must admit to having a slight 'issue' with the Lola-Astons as well. As the engine they are running is from a *cough* production *cough* car they run a larger restrictor than the other petrol P1's, which have dedicated race engines. Picky I know, but I'm always slightly dubious of equalising performance through this method. It's taken a few years to try and successfully equalise the diesel to petrol performance for instance (and is still failing). Ach, June will tell, as always!


Nick M

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252 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Red Firecracker said:
zac510 said:
ellroy said:
i was referring to the factory lmp1 teams, privateers in last years cars don't really give a true indication of Aston being in with a shout come june or not. I suspect they'll do well against the petrol cars, but that Audi/Peugeot may well have the legs on them. More's the pity.
Looking good for a win in the 5th 'petrol class' as some of the enthusiasts call it smile
Discount the Ginetta's at your peril I think. I feel they're going to get faster and faster as the season progresses.

I must admit to having a slight 'issue' with the Lola-Astons as well. As the engine they are running is from a *cough* production *cough* car they run a larger restrictor than the other petrol P1's, which have dedicated race engines. Picky I know, but I'm always slightly dubious of equalising performance through this method. It's taken a few years to try and successfully equalise the diesel to petrol performance for instance (and is still failing). Ach, June will tell, as always!

In fairness the Aston engine is a relatively big lump and isn't anything like as small and compact as the Judd and Zytek engines for example. It really is more of a race prepared production engine than a bespoke race engine. Plus it sounds nicer wink

As for equalising the petrol and dismal engines, well, that's clearly just politics by the ACO. If you've got two big manufacturers going head to head, are you really going to squeeze them on performance to the point where a Pesky Rolo or Ginetta might win ? Particularly if one of your big manufacturers is French wink



Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Nick M said:
In fairness the Aston engine is a relatively big lump and isn't anything like as small and compact as the Judd and Zytek engines for example. It really is more of a race prepared production engine than a bespoke race engine. Plus it sounds nicer wink

As for equalising the petrol and dismal engines, well, that's clearly just politics by the ACO. If you've got two big manufacturers going head to head, are you really going to squeeze them on performance to the point where a Pesky Rolo or Ginetta might win ? Particularly if one of your big manufacturers is French wink
Don't get me wrong, totally agree with what you've said (especially about the slightly nationalistic bent of the ACO....). I just think (and have done for a while) that air restrictors are a maybe stab in the dark way of approaching the problem.

Still, the LMS series organisers seem to be doing a good enough job of creating gaps in the race order with the spec fuel that is allegedly rather poor. smile