Official Chinese Grand Prix 2009 Thread***spoilers***
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It depends which rear diffusers everyone is running.
Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
Duke of Rothesay said:
It depends which rear diffusers everyone is running.
Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
I'll probably be banned from Pistonheads forums for saying it, but what a sensible and balanced overview that is. Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
DWP said:
Duke of Rothesay said:
It depends which rear diffusers everyone is running.
Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
I'll probably be banned from Pistonheads forums for saying it, but what a sensible and balanced overview that is. Either way Vettel should atone for the previous two races with a strong points finish. Webber will have his usual bad "luck".
McLaren performance will depend on the attitude of Hamilton, his dad is well annoyed with McLaren and it might rub off on junior. It would be nice to see Kovi allowed to run a light Q3 for a change.
Ferrari will be stronger. A fortune spent at the factory and a team principle drinking in the last chance saloon. Surely they can't be as bad as the last two races?
BMW will be much the same unless incidents favour them. They have a way to go to close the gap this season.
Toyota have everything in place to do well. Tim is the real thing. Podiums this season.
Williams, for all their engineering prowess seem flawed. How good are their drivers really?
STR will have fun. Bordais will be outclassed for the second season running.
Renault look the same as at the beginning of last season with a dog that Alonso will fettle. Don't rule out a good run if incidents work for him.
Force India will do a good job keeping all the other teams ahead of them. But looks like a fun place to work.
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up. Brawn is the consumate team principle/engineer of the current generation and Button is one of the finest drivers on the grid. But do they have the resources to stay ahead? The new testing rules are giving them some breathing space but there is a lot of money hunting them down.
May it be the first of many.
Ferrari team manager Luca Baldiserri has been moved to a factory based role.
Full story here.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74449
Full story here.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74449
Looking forward to race three. What time is kick-off for live viewing here in the UK? Has Bernie pushed the China start back a few hours à la Australia & Malaysia?
As for the race; I'd like to see the Brawn's continue their domination (and long may it continue) and see Vettel deliver too but it will be interesting to see what occurs in the next 24hrs re: the outcome of the diffuser appeal.
Would also be nice to see Kovi make it past the first corner!
As for the race; I'd like to see the Brawn's continue their domination (and long may it continue) and see Vettel deliver too but it will be interesting to see what occurs in the next 24hrs re: the outcome of the diffuser appeal.
Would also be nice to see Kovi make it past the first corner!
Jarama79 said:
Looking forward to race three. What time is kick-off for live viewing here in the UK? Has Bernie pushed the China start back a few hours à la Australia & Malaysia?
As for the race; I'd like to see the Brawn's continue their domination (and long may it continue) and see Vettel deliver too but it will be interesting to see what occurs in the next 24hrs re: the outcome of the diffuser appeal.
Would also be nice to see Kovi make it past the first corner!
Qualifying is at 07.00am and race at 08.00am I believe with early morning practices.
P1 03.00 to 04.30am
P2 07.00 to 08.30am
P3 04.00 TO 05.00am
As for the race; I'd like to see the Brawn's continue their domination (and long may it continue) and see Vettel deliver too but it will be interesting to see what occurs in the next 24hrs re: the outcome of the diffuser appeal.
Would also be nice to see Kovi make it past the first corner!
Qualifying is at 07.00am and race at 08.00am I believe with early morning practices.
P1 03.00 to 04.30am
P2 07.00 to 08.30am
P3 04.00 TO 05.00am
Duke of Rothesay said:
A lot of mostly agreeable and sensible stuff but i would take some issue with this point:-
Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up.
I agree that there is a lot of money being spent by others to try to catch up but I think that the testing ban will mean that it will be very hard for them to do so. In particular I noted the other weekend that when told to jog on a little Buttons went 8/10s faster than anything else on the track. Given that the perceived wisdom is that the diffuser is worth 2/10s per lap and that the Brawn isn't running KERS yet I think that they will have this covered. I doubt that they will be standing still themselves either.Then there is Brawn. Only two more chances to rack up the points before Europe, where most of the competitors will play catch up.
In short I see things getting closer but don't think that anyone will be able to beat the Brawn's raw speed without a new car.
stifler said:
Well, it's less than a week away. What are the predictions? Anyone placed any bets?
And most importantly, what are you gonna be eating?
I'm having number 49 from Xiang Wah with egg fried rice.
And a side of Jaffa Cakes.
I'll be ordering an extra bag of prawn crackers from the Golden Dragon which will be saved for the race, and hoping Brawn can make it 3 in a row. Would like to see Rubens take his share of victories but I will, of course, be cheering for Jenson! And most importantly, what are you gonna be eating?
I'm having number 49 from Xiang Wah with egg fried rice.
And a side of Jaffa Cakes.
The Moose said:
So, when is the decision due to be announced (as it is going to impact hugely on this next race)??
Cheers
The Moose
Well I was expecting sometime today but Autosport article says it will be tomorrow afternoon.Cheers
The Moose
Guess the guys flying to China will be a day later with the large hand luggage, question is which guys (teams) will it be.
I'm just wandering if the 'diffuser three' have a normal diffuser in case it is ruled illegal. I thought i heard that Toyota had one but not sure about the rest of the teams. Think if they are ruled against, it could ruin yet another race. Just want a fair race with the result decided on track. Nothing dragged out for weeks afterwards.
SPR2 said:
What weather can we expect for this race?
Possibly rain on friday then cloudy the rest of the weekendhttp://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-weekends...
Reminds me i must get some chinese food in for sunday morn
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