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fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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What on earth is it with this phrase?!

For sure, I first noticed it increasing in popularity last year. Massa was the main culprit, for sure. But since then, everyone seems to have caught a case of the for sure's! It seems no one can be interviewed without getting it in there at least once? It appears to be useful in any context what so ever!

Surprisingly, last weeks post-race press conference only seemed to contain 2 instances, one from SV and one from JB. For sure we will see more next time.

For sure, it is slowly driving me mad! I cannot be the only that has noticed this, for sure?

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Schumacher used it before Massa was in the team.

fivesixseven8

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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For sure?

Must have slipped me by.

forsure

2,244 posts

297 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Can't say I'd noticed it myself...

crossle

1,520 posts

280 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Where have you been for the last twenty years?

That's about how long this pointless phrase has been bandied about in F1, and about how long it's been driving me up the wall...


forsure

2,244 posts

297 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I think Lauda started it.


fivesixseven8

Original Poster:

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256 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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forsure said:
Can't say I'd noticed it myself...


hehe

crossle said:
Where have you been for the last twenty years?

That's about how long this pointless phrase has been bandied about in F1, and about how long it's been driving me up the wall...
How much detail do I need to go into? From approx 1984-1988 I was in primary school...

It is only something that I've noticed over the past few years but recently, for sure, it has become rather infuriating!

crossle

1,520 posts

280 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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forsure said:
I think Lauda started it.
You may be right. Certainly Nigel Roebuck used to parody it...

stew-S160

8,020 posts

267 months

fivesixseven8

Original Poster:

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256 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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stew-S160 said:
Genius, for sure.

Lord Croker

7,416 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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It's not just F1. Rally drivers have been saying for just as long...

thegreenhell

23,897 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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stew-S160 said:
For sure, that's the only championship that Ferrari are in contention for this year.

I first noticed this phenomenon when J. Villeneuve entered F1 in the Nineties.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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You must be a little tightly wound to be upset by a couple of words frown

ajprice

33,351 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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"For Sure" has been around for ages, definitely since Villeneuve/Schumacher, probably before then.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I love it when it's followed by 'you know'. There's 4 words with the equivalent value of breadcrumbs in sausage. Useless, tasteless filler.

At they don't say 'like'.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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stew-S160 said:
biggrin

Shows that it's not just limited to drivers without English as their first language!

Plug550

1,108 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Extensively used by the likes of Senna and Prost for sure, but I'd go with Lauda being the first culprit. Generally used by drivers whose first language is not the Queens finest.

brierleys

237 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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I hate this too!!! Thank god it's not just me. For sure, I thought it was a foreign thing. A lack of skill in English, for sure. But then Button started for suring. I struggle to get through post race interviews, for sure.

It's nearly as irritating as people who use reflective pronouns out of a misguided sense of politeness. "Hello, how are you?". "I'm fine, and how is yourself?" Arrrggggghh!. I visibly cringe everytime I hear it, for sure.

F i F

48,733 posts

280 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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It's very common with German speakers where they want to use the word "sicher" or a variant thereof to say certain or certainly or confident or something in that line of thought but are mistranslating. First person I really noticed it with was Walter Röhrl but I can well believe that Lauda used this earlier.

The thing many English speakers don't appreciate is that just because a person's spoken and written English may be very good it doesn't mean that their understanding of spoken English is as good. Thus it can help their understanding when one speaks in English there is an element of adjusting and simplifying your own language to fit with the way their own language works.

Therefore after a lot of years living and working with furriners I can well imagine how a phrase like this and others has stuck with Jenson. Yes I know his team is UK based but even so bet there are a lot of people who do not have English as a first language. It becomes so common to simplify what you say and how you say it that you can forget when speaking to native English speakers.

HTH

Pistonheads.com Irritability with furriners matters.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Fisi seemed to be a bad one for it also, but nobody interviews him nowadays hehe