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Autosport.com said:
Red Bull considers engine options
Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner is in no rush to extend the team's race-winning partnership with Renault into 2010, as it weighs up an engine deal with Mercedes for next season.
Despite claiming a 1-2 victory in the Chinese Grand Prix, this week's AUTOSPORT magazine exclusively reveals that the team is understood to be well down the line in negotiations with Mercedes, despite not having ruled out continuing with Renault.
"It's way too early to be talking about engines for next year," Horner told AUTOSPORT. "Hopefully Renault will still be around. The engine is performing well and, having been permitted the equalisation adjustments at the end of last year, I think it is comparable with the other engines in F1.
"You've probably still got Mercedes as the strongest engine, but I don't think the Renault gives anything away to its rivals."
Mercedes has ruled out supplying more than three teams with engines, and with a firm commitment to both works team McLaren and Force India, Red Bull would have to replace Brawn GP as the German manufacturer's second customer.
Horner added that there is no rush to finalise its engine supplier, as it is possible to modify a car design for an alternative engine at relatively short notice.
"As Ross Brawn has proved, you can change engines at the last minute - they're such simplistic blocks these days," said Horner.
For an in-depth analysis of why Red Bull Racing is keen on Mercedes engines, read AUTOSPORT magazine (out on Thursday).
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74701
I hope this is an unfounded rumour. Maybe it's just a ploy to get people to buy the magazine...Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner is in no rush to extend the team's race-winning partnership with Renault into 2010, as it weighs up an engine deal with Mercedes for next season.
Despite claiming a 1-2 victory in the Chinese Grand Prix, this week's AUTOSPORT magazine exclusively reveals that the team is understood to be well down the line in negotiations with Mercedes, despite not having ruled out continuing with Renault.
"It's way too early to be talking about engines for next year," Horner told AUTOSPORT. "Hopefully Renault will still be around. The engine is performing well and, having been permitted the equalisation adjustments at the end of last year, I think it is comparable with the other engines in F1.
"You've probably still got Mercedes as the strongest engine, but I don't think the Renault gives anything away to its rivals."
Mercedes has ruled out supplying more than three teams with engines, and with a firm commitment to both works team McLaren and Force India, Red Bull would have to replace Brawn GP as the German manufacturer's second customer.
Horner added that there is no rush to finalise its engine supplier, as it is possible to modify a car design for an alternative engine at relatively short notice.
"As Ross Brawn has proved, you can change engines at the last minute - they're such simplistic blocks these days," said Horner.
For an in-depth analysis of why Red Bull Racing is keen on Mercedes engines, read AUTOSPORT magazine (out on Thursday).
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74701
stifler said:
So they have just had their first win and a 1-2 finish at that, and they are effectively putting out a press release saying that they are looking at Mercedes because they don't think that Renault will be up to the job.
Great way to get distinctly B-spec engines!
Oh don't be silly, we all know that there's no one that bitter working in Renault Great way to get distinctly B-spec engines!
mchammer89 said:
stifler said:
So they have just had their first win and a 1-2 finish at that, and they are effectively putting out a press release saying that they are looking at Mercedes because they don't think that Renault will be up to the job.
Great way to get distinctly B-spec engines!
Oh don't be silly, we all know that there's no one that bitter working in Renault Great way to get distinctly B-spec engines!
Is it more significant, says more about Renault, that Horner said, "Hopefully Renault will be around next year..." And if Renault participation is not clear, or in doubt, then isn't he really just saying, "hey mercedes you agreed to supply engines to get Brawn on the grid, but before you extend it into 2010 (assuming the Bernie brokered deal was for just this season to give them a start) is there contract between Merc and Brawn? and does it extend beyond the end of the season? Is there anything on the web in the winter reports around Brawn? the implication from the article is just that, that McLaren and Force India have firm committment/contract from Merc, so Brawn don't have one. Horner's saying don't sign anything now with Brawn on QT. We might be interested.
Teppic said:
Marcia said:
I thought an engine supplier could only supply 2 teams 
Mercedes were "allowed" by sMax to supply a third team in order to save Brawn.
aeropilot said:
Perhaps it would be better to force teams to supply two teams?
Someone could get the BMW engines then in place of a MB unit, as all the other manufacturers currently supply at least one other team.
Of course if Renault do pull the plug then that all goes pear-shaped
Except what happens if the team that have to run the BMW engine don't want it?Someone could get the BMW engines then in place of a MB unit, as all the other manufacturers currently supply at least one other team.
Of course if Renault do pull the plug then that all goes pear-shaped
Unless you've got a spec engine, you have to give a team the freedom to solve its own problems.
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