Why aren't there any female F1 drivers?
Why aren't there any female F1 drivers?
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Bernie-the-bolt

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279 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Serious question, so no answers about their tits or bums not fitting in the car!

Is it they just can't drive or don't have the reactions for example - If girls are good enough to fly a fast jet in combat surely they can drive an F1 car competitively?

I seem to remember a girl who was progressing through the ranks some years ago (can't remember her name?) but she seems to be off the radar now.

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Put simply, there aren't any good enough. If there were it would be a marketing mans wet dream. Pun intended.

FNG

4,747 posts

253 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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There have been a few going through the lower formulae over the years, there's usually one or two in FFord and sometimes one will get up to F3.

But despite the obvious marketing possibilities, I don't think there has yet been a woman who's fit enough, talented enough and determined enough to deal with the various demands of F1 racing.

Last great hope was supposed to be Sarah Fisher, who tested for McLaren for a publicity stunt a few years ago. But she was still a couple of seconds away from the pace and now occasionally runs a car in IRL. Finished 17th yesterday in the Indy 500.

The top woman in single seaters at the moment must be Danica Patrick, who ran British FFord a few years back and has been mentored up to one of the top teams in IRL. But given how long it's taken her to get up to scratch, in the best team in the championship, and looking at how Seb Bourdais is faring in F1 after winning 4 consecutive IRL championships with ease, it's very unlikely that she'll ever be good enough either.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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it is quite clear that the F1 would have to tone down the parties if women were allowed wink

But seriously motorsport is a man sport. Therefore women trying to gain sponsorship from a young age is difficult. This means they never will progress as fast as needed to gain entry into F1. mainly as this is done in the UK.

Go to the US, Australia and Germany and women are accepted a lot more.

Also we don't have any good looking women to go into F1, they are too busy with horses and shopping and stuff.

Who would you put forward for future racing in F1 out of the current crop of youngsters.


tali1

5,286 posts

230 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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It's unusual as they are reasonably well represented in Rallying

elster

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239 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Indeed, I mean Susie Stottard was doing quite well in single seaters before heading to die Germans.

elster

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239 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Just had a quick look round and one female who does seem to perform pretty well is Cassey Watson.

However I see her progress as limited by what she is driving.


FNG

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253 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Forgot about Susie Stoddart. Did she ever get an F1 test? I don't recall one.

Bernie-the-bolt

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Monday 25th May 2009
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So it looks like the sport is simply not geared up for women and to a greater degree sexist?

stifler

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217 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Not Susie. 'Twas Catherine Leggard(?)Was that her name?

She had the last Minardi test, then did Champ Cars before the join with IRL.

She had a purple helmet hehe


Bernie-the-bolt

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stifler said:
She had a purple helmet hehe
So was a ladyboy then wink

stifler

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Monday 25th May 2009
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Bernie-the-bolt said:
So it looks like the sport is simply not geared up for women and to a greater degree sexist?
I think it looks sexist from the viewpoint of outside the sport. It really isn't if you work in motorsport.

As I said above, there aren't any Female drivers good enough at the moment.

That will change when my little girl is old enough for Karting. wink

JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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I think women are too sensible and mentally balanced to do motorsport. Mental rally nutcases like Louise Aitken-Walker and Michelle Mouton excepted. smile

Motorsport is often billed as "testosterone-fuelled" and in some ways perhaps it is.

Bernie-the-bolt

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stifler said:
That will change when my little girl is old enough for Karting. wink
Let's have her name and get some betting odds with Betfair please biggrin

stifler

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Monday 25th May 2009
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Bernie-the-bolt said:
stifler said:
She had a purple helmet hehe
So was a ladyboy then wink
nono

As a woman, she came highly recommended! wink

As a driver, she was ok.

ginettag27

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298 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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There have been a few, over the years, but Giovanna Amati (sp?) was the most recent one, around 90/91... There will probably be one next year, if team USGP goes ahead. Surely it's all about the numbers. There are a number of talented male drivers, in F1, who simply just don't perform. Therefore, I would hazard a calculated guesstimate, that based on the smaller number of female racing drivers, there just isn't the numbers to produce 1 or 2 that are half decent. Of course being half decent at another discipline doesn't mean that they will do well at F1, it's more of a mental thing and those final tenths are mostly in the mind, as can be seen by some differing displays by drivers in the same team. Of course usually they go away to another form of motorsport, having languished in F1 for a bit and blow all the other competitors away. Brundle was always hugely quick at Le Mans, McNish is one of the quickest around there, and Johnny Herbert and so on.. They are quick drivers and excellent, but quite often only 99% the finished article, someone comes along who is a few tenths of a percent quicker/better and beats them.. all imho

Alfa_75_Steve

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229 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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The last woman in F1 was Giovanna Amati.

Although the Brabham she was driving at the time was desperately off the pace - I have vague recollections that she was several seconds down on Eric van de Poele in qualifying and never qualified for a race.

Both Damon Hill and van de Poele did manage to qualify the car on a handful of occasions.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

277 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Flavio Briatore's girlfriend, Giovanna Amati (circa 1992) was the last woman to run a F1 car in a competative setting (Free Practice and Qualifying), she simply wasnt quick enough to make the start grid in the 3 races she tried to qualify for.

Its way back in 1976 that the last woman driver actually started a race.

Murph7355

41,968 posts

285 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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The harnesses chafe and, more importantly, races are always held at lunchtime when, of course, the ladies are in the kitchen.

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stifler

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Monday 25th May 2009
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A harness is more likely to pinch your balls than chafeing on fanny lips. Breasts don't get affected by harnesses. Trust me, I have done seat fits on a few female drivers.

Lunch though... wink