another stupid tyre question
another stupid tyre question
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tbdgriff500

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1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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what are your thoughts on running dunlop direnza semi slicks on the front, while having slicks on the back, keep your answers polite please, i know its a daft question but has anyone any experience on this ?
regards
tim.

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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...hmmmmmm

max grip/speed at back, limited braking/steering at the front

...hmmmmmmm

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Tim,
I know there are lots of things to consider, but would they not go off early in the race leading to understeer and maybe take a little longer to heat up, again, leading to understeer??

It's a question rather than a suggestion (cos I know about as much as you do on tyres methinks!!)

Not sure, but... hehe

based on my logic, sounds like a good idea.. hehe


tbdgriff500

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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hi John
you would recommend i use remoulds wink

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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But of course Tim..what else!

If you and the other Class C guys could start and run on used remoulds, I may have a better chance of getting back some of the points I dropped at Brands. wink

I take it you can get the other tyres at handy money??


tbdgriff500

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1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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yes, trouble is i have 17" rears 16" fronts
rears btcc tyres but 16" more difficult, some cheap 16" direnza's at the moment, its all about the money, or lack of at the moment!!
i will see what else i can sell to fund the racing.
err wife,kids, grandmother!!laugh

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Tim is there a particular problem your trying to solve or is it just the cost of the tyres your looking at..

can you get a good price on the direnza's in 15" ? im looking for something to put on my taz either 205 or 225 R15


slicks seem to be about £710 delivered and D0z 3 £565 and a full set for the tuscan a couple of pints under a grand !!!

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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After checking the tyre temp at brands, the fronts get much hotter, so would guess they are doing more work than the rears, so you would want the best grip you can at the front.

out of interest what offset are your 17's that fit the rear, that allow you to use BTCC tyres. as be tempted to get a set of wheels for the rear so I can use the cheaper BTCC tyres that are about.

you other option would be to re-design the front arches so you can fit 17's on the front also.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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You do need to be careful with used slicks... Myself and Steve hall bought some 18" ex cupra slicks... plenty of tread depth left but totally fubared in terms of actual grip... worse than 2 year old doj2's worn to the canvas!!!

tbdgriff500

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1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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i appreciate your comments on the dodgey used slicks, i am learning what to look for, ie blue petrol looking edges, flat spots,but it is hard to spot a good on from a crap one, you need to trust the source,they will only shag me once, and i will shag them back!!

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Yeah, if you can build up a long term relationship with someone for used slicks thats the way to do it... random buying off the internet is probably a no no..

NTEL

5,051 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Tim, I have it on good authority that part worn tyres like the ones below work really well on Tasmin race cars. Do you want some?



wink

tbdgriff500

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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laugh i'm alright mate but can keith have two sets!

forgeracing

160 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Hi Tim,
If at all poss get the best rubber on TAZO you can, she gives away power but is so well sutup that you will be giving away time without the correct rubber!! Pls do not be tempted to put 17" rims on the front as this will only cause the car to under steer like mad, it is setup to turn in and oversteer a little if breaking traction which is far better to deal with than understeer.
If you need any data give me a shout and I will help if poss.
Good luck at mallory, cant remember my times there but I was racing with John Wilson's cerb!!!
Regards
Sam smile


tbdgriff500

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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hi sam
new slicks for me then!!
and some more bhp at some point.
do you think keith would notice if i switched engines on himbiggrin

Keithyboy

1,940 posts

299 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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... . probably not as I've been running without a 4th gear and shot rear suspension for most of the racing this season. rolleyesbiggrin

pete.reeve

516 posts

312 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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tbdgriff500 said:
hi sam
new slicks for me then!!
and some more bhp at some point.
do you think keith would notice if i switched engines on himbiggrin
I could build you the same as Keith at a price biggrin

pete.reeve

516 posts

312 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Also I run 16 fronts and buy the same tyres as the old tomcat series they are the same compound as the tc's ish. They work well with the set up you have.

Pete

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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I was actually quite surprised how much grip I was getting last night from some worn 4 year old Kumho v700's... nice and balanced too hehe



Although they were a bit lively on the gravel...

I've got quite a few part worn sets if anyone's interested hehe


225/45 R15

Edited by Graham on Friday 10th July 12:32

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Graham said:
I was actually quite surprised how much grip I was getting last night from some worn 4 year old Kumho v700's... nice and balanced too hehe



Although they were a bit lively on the gravel...
Apparently not!