Schumacher wont be testing?
Schumacher wont be testing?
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lewis1

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311 posts

217 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77551

i guess with Williams not agreeing to them testing and Red bull also does that mean they wont be allowed or will it be waved by the FIA?

acf8181

797 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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No, they won't be allowed....they need unanimous agreement form other teams.

Is right i feel, as Alguesari wasn't allowed to test.

Seems like Ferrari are throwing toys out the pram in response - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77551

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Right decision by Williams - can't see why any exception should be made for Schuey

TonyToniTone

3,927 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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acf8181 said:
No, they won't be allowed....they need unanimous agreement form other teams.

Is right i feel, as Alguesari wasn't allowed to test.

Seems like Ferrari are throwing toys out the pram in response - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77551
Pathetic childish response from Ferrari which shows there true colours, how small a memory they must have. After years of getting their own way and breaking the rules, someone has actually stood in their way. Everyone remember Indianapolis 2005?Ferrari the only team that blocked an otherwise unanimous agreement by the teams which would have allowed everyone to race safely,Excuse = How would that have been fair to us?

As for lack of spirit and fair play - Schumacher driving into Damon Hill's Williams to rob him of the title then trying to do the same to Villneuve's Williams a year later must have been erased from Ferrari's memory - the biggest un-sporting incident's in F1 history.

I actually wanted to Schumacher to get the test day but after hearing there pathetic responses - they can get to F**k!

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 4th August 16:46

rsole

643 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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I wanted him to get the test also - i agree it is a pretty daft response by Ferarri. Can't blame MS tho. Ferarri are the ones issuing the statement.

Nick_F

10,598 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Perhaps much of the pressure for unity among the members of FOTA has been lifted.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Nick_F said:
Perhaps much of the pressure for unity among the members of FOTA has been lifted.
Were Williams not kicked out of FOTA? Besides RedBull and Torra Rossa have also blocked the move, not sure why Ferrari are only having a go at Williams.

sirtyro

1,824 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Nick_F said:
Perhaps much of the pressure for unity among the members of FOTA has been lifted.
Were Williams not kicked out of FOTA? Besides RedBull and Torra Rossa have also blocked the move, not sure why Ferrari are only having a go at Williams.
Prob not the best idea for them to be having ago at a customer which I believe Torra Rosso are.

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Big LOL here for ferrari bhing about "spirit and fair play"

laughrofl

Take.your.oil.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
acf8181 said:
No, they won't be allowed....they need unanimous agreement form other teams.

Is right i feel, as Alguesari wasn't allowed to test.

Seems like Ferrari are throwing toys out the pram in response - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77551
Pathetic childish response from Ferrari which shows there true colours, how small a memory they must have. After years of getting their own way and breaking the rules, someone has actually stood in their way. Everyone remember Indianapolis 2005?Ferrari the only team that blocked an otherwise unanimous agreement by the teams which would have allowed everyone to race safely,Excuse = How would that have been fair to us?

As for lack of spirit and fair play - Schumacher driving into Damon Hill's Williams to rob him of the title then trying to do the same to Villneuve's Williams a year later must have been erased from Ferrari's memory - the biggest un-sporting incident's in F1 history.

I actually wanted to Schumacher to get the test day but after hearing there pathetic responses - they can get to F**k!

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 4th August 16:46
Who was Schumacher driving for at the time of the first of the two incidents you mention? Hint, it wasn't Ferrari.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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"As for lack of spirit and fair play - Schumacher driving into Damon Hill's Williams to rob him of the title then trying to do the same to Villneuve's Williams a year later must have been erased from Ferrari's memory - the biggest un-sporting incident's in F1 history."

Might want to check out Senna's premeditated assault on Prosts Ferrari at the start of the 1990 Japanese Grand Prix before making comments about unsporting incidents.Not justifying what Shuey did, it was totally wrong, but at least it was a bad decision made in the spur of the moment and not planned before the race even began!.

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Ferrari should be using their test driver. I agree with Williams ans RB. It will set a president for the future that will be used to bend the rules further.

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Galileo said:
Ferrari should be using their test driver. I agree with Williams ans RB. It will set a president for the future that will be used to bend the rules further.
A 'president'? What like of the FIA? That would be a precedent...........

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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4rephill said:
"As for lack of spirit and fair play - Schumacher driving into Damon Hill's Williams to rob him of the title then trying to do the same to Villneuve's Williams a year later must have been erased from Ferrari's memory - the biggest un-sporting incident's in F1 history."

Might want to check out Senna's premeditated assault on Prosts Ferrari at the start of the 1990 Japanese Grand Prix before making comments about unsporting incidents.Not justifying what Shuey did, it was totally wrong, but at least it was a bad decision made in the spur of the moment and not planned before the race even began!.
Spur of the moment as in a one-off? - You see no similarities with what he done in 94 with Damon Hill and 97 with Villeneuve?

coetzeeh

2,890 posts

265 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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I find it totally outrageous that McLaren/Merc agreed for MS/Ferrari to test. WTF?

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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"Spur of the moment as in a one-off? - You see no similarities with what he done in 94 with Damon Hill and 97 with Villeneuve?"

Spur of the moment does not imply a one off.It means to do something immediately without any pre planning,which is what happened in '94 &'97.These were decisions made in a split second during the races.When Senna drove into the back of Prosts Ferrari at Suzuka He had already decided to do it before the race had even started.In My book that makes it much worse than Schumachers incidents.

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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coetzeeh said:
I find it totally outrageous that McLaren/Merc agreed for MS/Ferrari to test. WTF?
Brownie points.

Russian Rocket

874 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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stifler said:
coetzeeh said:
I find it totally outrageous that McLaren/Merc agreed for MS/Ferrari to test. WTF?
Brownie points.
quite agree brownie point's.

McLaren and ferrari are amongst the "also ran" this year. they are both going to come way even with the recent improvements so from Mclarem POV why not agree, it casts them in a good light.

Ferrari have really thrown the rattle out the pram, very much McLaren 1 : Ferrari 0 on this one.

From Williams POV they stand a good chance of beating ferrari for the first time in years. An in season test will allow ferari to develop the car as well as let schui get some practice. Why should they agree to that, cant see ferrari agreeing if boot was on the other foot.

StevenB

783 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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they want shumui to race and not the test/reserve drivers who know the car well, so why should they get the extra testing it's not like he is the only person able to drive the car good on williams etc for stopping them