Vatanen on the up?
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Derek Smith

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49,748 posts

277 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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An interesting article on Vatanen’s bid for the FIA throne here:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/

I must admit to having accepted that Todt would walk it but it seems it might not be all signed and sealed. It would appear that Todt’s publication of all the votes he’d already got was not sufficient to start painting he name on the door. Vatanen claims to have some middle eastern countries on his side, and we all know how a bit of hedging bets did for Mosley in his so-called vote of confidence.

He has a rather odd point of view though. He reckons that we should have grands prix in countries where you don’t have to bus soldiers in to fill some of the stands. Further that it would be a shame to abandon the traditional venues. Cor! As if that will happen.

Whether a threat to FOM/CVC or whatever it or they is/are called is a particularly good idea I can’t say but it does seem a bit wild to me.

Todt has been keeping a low profile, and I assumed that this was not only because his profile is rather, er, daunting but that when you are ahead it is rather silly risking it all on the chance of saying something wrong.

I would think that the bigest problem Todt has is that he is seen - and probably is - in the pocket of Mosley. And Mosley is, of course, seen as a loser. It was accepted wisdom that he would seek relection but this was taken from him by the FOTA. I suppose a victory over Renault might be seen as a show of strength.

I’m still not convinced Ari stands much of a/any chance but the vote is obviously not over until it is over.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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Ari talks sense:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

Note especially where he says that currently F1 is alienating the fans from countries which have had a GP for years (GB, Germany, France) and he talks about ticket prices being too high, perhaps meaning he could put in a maximum price for a ticket, to make it more affordable for us mere mortals?

Unless JT offers to personally build and deliver an FXX to each person who pays for a GP ticket, I cannot see him beating Ari.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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About ticket prices: how much money does it take to host a grand prix? I'm talking in terms of gross required investment -- by the track owners/operators, sponsors, government authorities, etc., all combined.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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the problem is that ari talks too much sense for the FIA, and see's F1 as a passion and a sport. which it isn't, its a business. bernie has seen to that. and unless cvc pays its bills, there is no F1. of course, F1 is going to end up worthless without the traditional venues, but it's a slower death than from not enough money coming in straight away.

iirc average circuit hosting fees are around $25m per race? (might be way off but that's the figure in my head)