Silverstone LMS this weekend ?
Silverstone LMS this weekend ?
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outnumbered

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263 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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Anyone going ? I was quite surprised to find no thread already running..

dougc

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294 months

MEVILAZY

315 posts

240 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Yes, I will be driving up from London early Sunday morning.

Along with the FIA GT one of the UK highlights of the year so yes I am surprised no thread...

Not going to happen but Aston Martin to win in three of the four classes please!

APEX66

87 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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No Audis or Pugs running, should be a Aston Martin white wash?

Red Firecracker

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256 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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APEX66 said:
No Audis or Pugs running, should be a Aston Martin white wash?
Well it ended about 3 hours ago... (and no, it wasn't)

Cracking race though, great result for Oreca and hopefully (yet) another nail in Pierre Ragues coffin. The man is a menace.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Congratulation to Luc Alphand Aventures who won the GT1 manufacturers title for Corvette and two of their drivers shared the drivers title too.

A few pictures here:

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/vetteheadr...

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Red Firecracker said:
APEX66 said:
No Audis or Pugs running, should be a Aston Martin white wash?
Well it ended about 3 hours ago... (and no, it wasn't)

Cracking race though, great result for Oreca and hopefully (yet) another nail in Pierre Ragues coffin. The man is a menace.
Incident with the Ferrari on the Hangar Straight or the smash after the flag, because if its the latter, I saw it and he wasn't entirely to blame.

skeggysteve

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246 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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dougc said:
the smash after the flag, because if its the latter, I saw it and he wasn't entirely to blame.
Doug can you describe what you saw, please.

I listened to the race on Radio LeMans and Hindy was very forthright in his views on Ragues.
But he didn't see the after the flag incident.
But the Signature Plus car did not get a penalty for the Hanger incident and they have been involved in a few incidents this year.


dougc

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294 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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skeggysteve said:
dougc said:
the smash after the flag, because if its the latter, I saw it and he wasn't entirely to blame.
Doug can you describe what you saw, please.

I listened to the race on Radio LeMans and Hindy was very forthright in his views on Ragues.
But he didn't see the after the flag incident.
But the Signature Plus car did not get a penalty for the Hanger incident and they have been involved in a few incidents this year.

Hindy was very scathing in his commentary about the behaviour of the Signature drivers, particularly Ragues following a couple of incidents including the one with the 430 on Hangar so it was easy to see why he laid the blame at Ragues door.

The incident happened like this.

The Speedy Racing Sebah #33 crossed the line to win LM P2. Not sure who was on board, Kane, Leuenberger or Pompidou. His pit was after the finish line and the mechanics had climbed the fence to wave him through. As per the norm, he slowed to pass and wave. In fact he slowed down a lot. I was expecting some sort of rolling burnout but he actually stopped, popped the door and started gesturing to the team. Punching the air etc. He was stationary for at least 10 seconds. The nearest flag marshal was on the secondary chequer and was looking towards the oncoming traffic.

Ragues crossed the line and did the usual move across to the pitlane to wave to his team. I think their pit box was about 5 or 6 before the Sebah pit. He didn't slow anywhere near as much and passed his guys, revving and waving, obviously looking at them as he passed. He saw the stationary Sebah car far too late - I reckon he was travelling at around 60 - 70mph, swerved hard left and missed hitting it square on but caught his rear right wheel and side on the Lola's rear left quarter. It removed most of the rear right of the Signature car and made a right old mess of the Lola.

My friend caught it in a photo as he was waiting for the expected burnout from the Sebah car. If he sends it (or if you're reading this Andy!) I'll post it up.

Edited by dougc on Sunday 13th September 22:57

outnumbered

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263 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Great race, and a good day out... 4 lead cars on the same lap after 1000km of flat out racing surely finishes the argument that endurance racing is "boring" ! That LMP2 Sebah was a bit of a mess afterwards.





Edited by outnumbered on Sunday 13th September 23:10

Mutley

3,178 posts

288 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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I forgot to take my AM radio, so missed the RadioLM commentaryfrown But a good weekend had, an exccelent 3 days but was both a shame and a blessing Sunday was much cooler than the previous 2 days.

What i find stagering is that the were only 5 non finishers, makes a good change.

Does anyone know when/if Eurosport will be reshowing the race/highlights as the box failed to record other than the start

Edited by Mutley on Monday 14th September 04:59

vetteheadracer

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282 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Pompidou was on board at the end....I took a pic from the pit fence just after he got out of the stricken car.....that will teach him not to stop on the start / finish straight after the finish!!

Mutley

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288 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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vetteheadracer said:
.....that will teach him not to stop on the start / finish straight after the finish!!
How many times have you seen drivers slow to wave/acknowledge their team? As the Sebah boys have done Every race this year?

and would that still "teach him" had he have had a mechanical failure and Had to stop? Is STILL the fault of the driver hitting him that caused the incident.

dougc

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294 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Mutley said:
vetteheadracer said:
.....that will teach him not to stop on the start / finish straight after the finish!!
How many times have you seen drivers slow to wave/acknowledge their team? As the Sebah boys have done Every race this year?

and would that still "teach him" had he have had a mechanical failure and Had to stop? Is STILL the fault of the driver hitting him that caused the incident.
Playing devils avocado for a second.

1. He didn't slow and wave, he stopped dead, for a long time, on the line that everyone was taking along the pitwall.

2. If he had a mechanical failure he would move off line, to the outside of the track and onto the grass and would more than likely exhibit signs that there was a problem thus prompting the nearest marshal to wave the yellows rather than continue with the secondary chequers.

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Mutley said:
vetteheadracer said:
.....that will teach him not to stop on the start / finish straight after the finish!!
How many times have you seen drivers slow to wave/acknowledge their team? As the Sebah boys have done Every race this year?

and would that still "teach him" had he have had a mechanical failure and Had to stop? Is STILL the fault of the driver hitting him that caused the incident.
+1

Surely at the finish of the race other drivers should slow after the line and at least consider the possibility that there may be slow, or even stationary, traffic on the circuit.


Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Ragues should have seen the Speedy cars location on the track from a ways back and not put his car in a situation where what did happen could happen (in my view and I was only watching the coverage/listening to Hindy, so take it as you will).

It has to be said though that Ragues (and indeed Mailleux) hasn't covered himself in glory all season.

Still, all made for a most entertaining race.

Astonandy

58 posts

212 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Pictures to accompany Dougc's expert rundown. Pure chance to capture the collision.

Crossing the line:


Impact:


Aftermath:

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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wavey Evening mate.

Astonandy

58 posts

212 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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beer

MEVILAZY

315 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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We know that in ALL race series cars pull over to the pit wall to wave to their teams, etc once they have crossed the finish line, so whether the car in front had stopped or was driving slowly the car behind must be to blame for not being fully observant!

Final race of the British GT series at Brands this weekend.....anyone going to that? (Not that it can compare at all with the Le Mans Series!).