Piquet Sr: Renault was managed by Alonso
Piquet Sr: Renault was managed by Alonso
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Wanta996Gotta

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5,622 posts

236 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Just as we all thought things had settled down over the Renault incident

Nelson Piquet sr has launched another scathing attack on Renault, claiming the team "was managed by Fernando Alonso himself".

The French-based team were last week slapped with a suspended two-year ban after Nelson Piquet jr deliberately crashed his car during the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix while former team boss Flavio Briatore was handed an effective lifetime ban for his involvement.

Piquet sr says his son was under enormous pressure at Renault and claims the whole debacle was "inevitable".

"This is not something that should exist in motor racing," Nelson Piquet Sr told the Brazilian media. "In my career I would never have thought about doing something like this. But the circumstances that made him do this were inevitable. He was under great pressure.

"This year was really very bad due to the favouring in terms of cars that Renault gave to Alonso. The team was not even managed by Briatore: it was managed by Alonso himself.

The former World Champion is also adamant that his son didn't come up with the idea to crash.

"Two hours before the race [Briatore] said [to Piquet Jr]: 'If you want to help the team then you have to do this'," Piquet said. "He accepted doing something under great pressure from Renault. He didn't have much else to lose in terms of his career.

"I knew that this was a crime. Manipulating the result of a race is a criminal act. There is no room for this in sport and especially when it is premeditated."

Muzzlehatch

4,768 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Is he implying that Alonso was the true ringleader for the crash? scratchchin

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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FFS! I wish he would give it a rest.

The damage is done, move away now.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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He's just saying that the team worshiped Alonso. Kind of true.

None of this is "news" though

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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F1 team in 'favouring the twice world champion driver least likely to spin, crash, cock up over the rookie' shocker!

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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CampDavid said:
He's just saying that the team worshiped Alonso. Kind of true.

None of this is "news" though
Indeed. But he has to keep the Piquet name in the news because his son has a chance at a top team next year. rolleyes No publicity is bad publicity.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Nelson Piquet Snr said:
"This year was really very bad due to the favouring in terms of cars that Renault gave to Alonso. The team was not even managed by Briatore: it was managed by Alonso himself.
rofl

The Brabham number two drive was possibly the most notorious of all the 'making up the numbers' seats. And didn't Nelson try to order Williams to slow Mansell down?

Edited by kevin ritson on Tuesday 29th September 10:26

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Piquet Snr is making himself look a right tt now. Time to let it go.

Derek Smith

49,744 posts

277 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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kevin ritson said:
Nelson Piquet Snr said:
"This year was really very bad due to the favouring in terms of cars that Renault gave to Alonso. The team was not even managed by Briatore: it was managed by Alonso himself.
rofl

The Brabham number two drive was possibly the most notorious of all the 'making up the numbers' seats. And didn't Nelson try to order Williams to slow Mansell down?
Piquet was Honda's man and rumour has it the pressure on Williams came from them. But Frank and Patrick are notorious for their belief that drivers are just another component in the car.

What Honda had to cough to some time later was supplying Mansell with reduced power. Or, as they put it, tailoring the engine management to suit individual drivers. It would appear that Mansell needed something like 7mph less along the straight in order to fine tune his driving. It came to notice when he had to drive a car set up for Piquet after he crashed.

Where the pressure came on Honda to slow Mansell has never been revealed. One or two people have their suspicions but they are not saying.

William's refusal to cooperate in such machinations cost them the Honda engines.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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CampDavid said:
He's just saying that the team worshiped Alonso. Kind of true.

None of this is "news" though
If the engineers had two people to speak to the man who is a good driver or the man who crashes it is quite obvious which one you would discuss things with.

VladD

8,196 posts

294 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Just sounds like a bitter backlash when Renault got away without punishment. Mr. Piquet should run for Max's job. That would make it interesting.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Piquet sr says his son was under enormous pressure at Renault and claims the whole debacle was "inevitable".

"This is not something that should exist in motor racing," Nelson Piquet Sr told the Brazilian media. "In my career I would never have thought about doing something like this. But the circumstances that made him do this were inevitable. He was under great pressure.

"This year was really very bad due to the favouring in terms of cars that Renault gave to Alonso. The team was not even managed by Briatore: it was managed by Alonso himself.


"calm down dear, it's only a crash"

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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I did like Brundle's comment on the Grid Walk - Teflonso.

Perhaps Piquet Sr is simply trying to scrape some of that off...

Redlake27

2,255 posts

273 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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The same Nelson Piquet Sr that chose such talents as Ricardo Zunino, Corrado Fabi, Francois Hesnault and Hector Rebaque to waste a race winning car and join him as Number 2 teammate?

The same Nelson Piquet Sr that thought Briatore was wrong to replace steady, unthreatening Roberto Moreno with an unknown Michael Schumacher?

Yeah right...

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Derek Smith said:
kevin ritson said:
Nelson Piquet Snr said:
"This year was really very bad due to the favouring in terms of cars that Renault gave to Alonso. The team was not even managed by Briatore: it was managed by Alonso himself.
rofl

The Brabham number two drive was possibly the most notorious of all the 'making up the numbers' seats. And didn't Nelson try to order Williams to slow Mansell down?
Piquet was Honda's man and rumour has it the pressure on Williams came from them. But Frank and Patrick are notorious for their belief that drivers are just another component in the car.

What Honda had to cough to some time later was supplying Mansell with reduced power. Or, as they put it, tailoring the engine management to suit individual drivers. It would appear that Mansell needed something like 7mph less along the straight in order to fine tune his driving. It came to notice when he had to drive a car set up for Piquet after he crashed.

Where the pressure came on Honda to slow Mansell has never been revealed. One or two people have their suspicions but they are not saying.

William's refusal to cooperate in such machinations cost them the Honda engines.
That and refusing to take on Satoru Nakajima. Honda went to Lotus, along with the Jaffa cakes.

Ian Davidson

4,506 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Is anyone surprised? Interesting story too, derek. Never knew that, before my time.

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

209 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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This is Piquet Snr trying to make his son look like the misguided innocent party in all this in order to get him a drive next year.

I don't think anyone in their right mind in here believes Alonso knew nothing of the crash plan, but does NP Snr really expect people to be shocked by this 'revelation' about Alonso controlling the team?! What a prat. It's like saying 'Schumacher virtually ran Ferrari'. As if we didn't know, big deal. Shut up and sod off.

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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spunkytherabbit said:
This is Piquet Snr trying to make his son look like the misguided innocent party in all this in order to get him a drive next year.

I don't think anyone in their right mind in here believes Alonso knew nothing of the crash plan, but does NP Snr really expect people to be shocked by this 'revelation' about Alonso controlling the team?! What a prat. It's like saying 'Schumacher virtually ran Ferrari'. As if we didn't know, big deal. Shut up and sod off.
Yes and yes.

flemke

23,485 posts

266 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Using his own logic, Piq Jr was "managed" by Piq Sr, and therefore Piq Sr was in on the crash plot.

Auntieroll

543 posts

213 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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flemke said:
Using his own logic, Piq Jr was "managed" by Piq Sr, and therefore Piq Sr was in on the crash plot.
Is this the crash plot that (reputedly) enabled NP snr to manage to smash his (allegedly) lightweight nose off after setting a fast qualifying time in order to have it replaced with a more beefy replacement in time for the trip to the scales?