Is it me, or is Trulli losing it?
Discussion
First off, we have Trulli going tonto over his accident with Sutil, even though it was blatantly his fault or to be charitable a "racing incident", now he's banging about how there is only "one person who wants him out of F1." That person being John Howett, the Toyota team boss...
I have a feeling this is the last we'll see of Trulli in an F1 car.
I have a feeling this is the last we'll see of Trulli in an F1 car.
Seeing somebody go as crazy as Trulli did to Sutil I thought Sutil must have done something very bad, and I hadn't seen it until the replay afterwards. When I saw the replay I couldn't believe such an experienced driver had it so wrong.
Madman. I hope Koby gets a drive next year. Trulli has had his chances and can easily be replaced.
Madman. I hope Koby gets a drive next year. Trulli has had his chances and can easily be replaced.
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
+1. As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.
Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once!

4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
+1. As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.
Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once!

fivesixseven8 said:
4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
+1. As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.
Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once!

, I've no idea what the hell I was thinking there! (Goes off to read the the profiles of all the drivers
)Trulli has still been better than Glock this season, however I would assume Toyota think that Glock will improve whereas Trulli won't. Kobayashi is unlikely to score as many points as either of them should he get a drive next season but being Japanese will not hurt his chances any given the obvious marketing benefits.
Reminds me of James hunt getting mario Andretti by the throught & explaining "in formula 1 we don't overtake on the outside!" marios response? " where I come from we overtake on the inside,outside any damn place we like!"
sutil was put off by Kimi lifting & therefore truli got the jump but no matter what track you're on you've gotta expect the car in front to drift wide at the exit! Racing incident plain & simple & no more.
If trulli had made it stick he would of looked great but he didn't, & ended up looking like a t
t!
sutil was put off by Kimi lifting & therefore truli got the jump but no matter what track you're on you've gotta expect the car in front to drift wide at the exit! Racing incident plain & simple & no more.
If trulli had made it stick he would of looked great but he didn't, & ended up looking like a t
t!Project 644 said:
As I said in the Kobayashi thread. Hopefully Howett will have Glock back for Abu Dhabi and hopefully he will keep Kobayashi in the other car.
Trulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
if you believe the pr, it's not really up to howett if glock comes back - it's down to how quickly he heals from his (admittedly strange) injuryTrulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
skinny said:
Project 644 said:
As I said in the Kobayashi thread. Hopefully Howett will have Glock back for Abu Dhabi and hopefully he will keep Kobayashi in the other car.
Trulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
if you believe the pr, it's not really up to howett if glock comes back - it's down to how quickly he heals from his (admittedly strange) injuryTrulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
Trulli is feeling threatened. His place at Toyota is under attack from Kobayashi, Raikkonen, or some other hitherto unknown driver. His comparative performance against Glock has not been decisively better for two consecutive seasons despite his vastly greater experience.
He can't blame himself for the incident, because it will make him look even worse than he was before. So in a fit of frustrated rage, he blames Sutil and cannot back out of it even if he wants to.
He can't blame himself for the incident, because it will make him look even worse than he was before. So in a fit of frustrated rage, he blames Sutil and cannot back out of it even if he wants to.
4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?
I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.
I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.
I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
+1. As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.
Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once!

, I've no idea what the hell I was thinking there! (Goes off to read the the profiles of all the drivers
)
phatgixer said:
Losing it? He ever had it.

He can produce a stunning lap but never strings it all together. How many times have we seen Trulli finish around 10th, yet set fastest lap? If I were a team owner I would be furious.
+1, I cannot understand how the "journeymen" keep their drives when there must be plenty of new blood that can bring the £££ with them. Better the devil you know I guess?
He can produce a stunning lap but never strings it all together. How many times have we seen Trulli finish around 10th, yet set fastest lap? If I were a team owner I would be furious.
Edited by phatgixer on Tuesday 20th October 18:35
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