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TonyToniTone

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Sunday 15th November 2009
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http://www.jaypeegreens-sportscity.com/images/mast...

India is set to host its first F1 Grand Prix in 2011 – and here’s the first glimpse of the track where the race will take place.

The circuit in the Jaypee Greens Sports City bears the usual hallmarks of a Hermann Tilke-designed track. But from this first impression it seems to have some of the open, flowing corners that many modern tracks often lack.
It looks like a circuit in two halves, with several slow corners before and after the main start/finish straight. These are surely intended to increase opportunities for overtaking, something F1 car designers have been demanding recently.

But the other half of the track includes several longer-radius corners and some quick-looking bends. It’s impossible to get any sense of gradient from this flat map, however.

It is an unusually short track – slightly under 5km (3.1 miles). That would make it shorter than any track on this year’s calendar bar the Circuit de Catalunya, Hungaroring, Interlagos and Monte-Carlo.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/11/15/2011-indian-...

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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TonyToniTone said:
It is an unusually short track – slightly under 5km (3.1 miles). That would make it shorter than any track on this year’s calendar bar the Circuit de Catalunya, Hungaroring, Interlagos and Monte-Carlo.
So not really shorter than any track at all.

I will wait and see what it is like once made. It is hard to tell from a drawing what the actual track will be like.

I think it will end being made into to a chinsy glitter fest circuit, with a little bit of a track for a side line in motor racing. So the track wont be the important part.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Ho Hum.

I presume the talking point will be the lazer display after the race is over.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Some open flowing corners? Opening flowing corners is the Becketts section, or the run down from Les Coombes to Stavelot, or the Esses through Dunlop at Suzuka. This is just more Tilke giant soulless kart track rubbish. IMO.


stockhatcher

5,164 posts

252 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Ho Hum.

I presume the talking point will be the lazer display after the race is over.
nah crash barriers made out of rupee's

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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stockhatcher said:
Eric Mc said:
Ho Hum.

I presume the talking point will be the lazer display after the race is over.
nah crash barriers made out of rupee's
Crash barriers made out of child beggars? After all, much of the Indian population pay them very little regard.

What happens if a cow wanders onto the track? I presume that would be an instant "red flag" - unless it's a bull, of course, in which case chaos would ensue.

Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 15th November 17:04

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Chalk it up as another souless multi-story carpark race that bores everyone to death.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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The thing is. The good "old" tracks (Spa & Brazil as examples), have been selected as the best in the country they are in from loads of tracks. Not because they were designed to be the best. But because they were found to be the best over many many years.

So countries should look to which circuits they have that offer the best racing. And bring them up to spec.

If they don't have any tracks, yes they'll need to build some. But there needs to be a period of trying them out in competition with each other at a local level to select the best.

I don't believe we know enough the build a good circuit out of the box.

Olivera

8,740 posts

268 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Another Tilke track rolleyes Almost all F1 track designs/redesigns over the last 10 years have been conducted by him, yet several articles recently have severley criticised track design for lack of overtaking...

Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Yawn. One of the problems with many of the modern circuits is that they're crammed into small areas, meaning that they zig-zag back and forth with few fast, long corners, particularly Becketts/Craner-type complexes as mentioned above.

They should have more corners like that triple apex one in Turkey which F1 cars are in for 7-8 seconds. That's a corner.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Given the massive amounts of aid given to India, should they really be spending it on an F1 track?

Which of course then raises the question, wouldnt the £825,000,000 the UK will give India between 2008-2010 be better spent on our own GP?

FourWheelDrift

92,239 posts

313 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Ho Hum.

I presume the talking point will be the lazer display after the race is over.
I don't think a display of motorbike helmets will be very spectacular.

Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
Given the massive amounts of aid given to India, should they really be spending it on an F1 track?
But they'll say that it's a wise use of the aid money, a way of stimulating investment in the country and its people thereby reducing India's need for support in the future yada yada... They're doing it for us, not for Bernie.






I should be a politcian wink

llewop

3,945 posts

240 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Olivera said:
Another Tilke track rolleyesAlmost all F1 track designs/redesigns over the last 10 years have been conducted by him, yet several virtually every article recently have severley criticised track design for lack of overtaking...
EFA

not just lack of overtaking - lack of soul

yet another thing to 'thank' the Bernie and Max show for.....

rolleyes

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Tilke in "Can't design a race track without drawing the corners around his protractor" shocker.

'Twill produce interesting racing. If you thought that Abu Dhabi was a good race.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Project 644 said:
Tilke in "Can't design a race track without drawing the corners around his protractor" shocker.

'Twill produce interesting racing. If you thought that Abu Dhabi was a good race.
The lights were pretty though.

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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It's ok giving us an arial view of the track what I want to see if the contours, some gradient, some off camber corners. Test these overpaid drivers!.

FourWheelDrift

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313 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
It's ok giving us an arial view of the track what I want to see if the contours, some gradient, some off camber corners. Test these overpaid drivers!.
It's not the gradient that will test the drivers but the cows on the track, mopeds driving on the wrong side of the road and the buses pulling out of the pits without looking that will be the real test.

Drederick Tatum

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214 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
Given the massive amounts of aid given to India, should they really be spending it on an F1 track?

Which of course then raises the question, wouldnt the £825,000,000 the UK will give India between 2008-2010 be better spent on our own GP?
So its like some dude on benefits driving a really flash car around

P7ULG

1,052 posts

312 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Given the massive amounts of aid given to India, should they really be spending it on an F1 track?

Which of course then raises the question, wouldnt the £825,000,000 the UK will give India between 2008-2010 be better spent on our own GP?
No

I have not missed a Grand Prix this Season, but I will be making an effort not to watch this one on principle.

While I am aware that it was probably just another constructed "news worthy" story on the news last night, there was the story of a farm labourer who had lost his job due to the land being used to build the new track. Consequently he is now unable to send his children to school.This was followed by a very smug Vijay Mallya bemoaning that the media always make a big deal about the poverty in his country, how inconvenient.

While I appreciate that a similar situation will exist in Brazil at the next GP and possibly in other host nations.The idea of a multi million pound sport being introduced into a poverty stricken country to line the pockets and stroke the egos of already very wealthy is not what Formula one should be about.