The Official Chinese GP 2010 Thread***SPOILERS***
The Official Chinese GP 2010 Thread***SPOILERS***
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Mazda Baiter

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37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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The Chinese GP threatens to be a boring race at a Tilke circuit, designed more around the shape of a Chinese symbol than around shapes conducive to good racing.

Extreme weather has hit the race and practice sessions before, so hopefully there could be some precipitation to spice things up.

Red Bull scored their first win here last year and made it a 1-2, on current form they have to be considered very strong for pole and the win.

Ferrari have won here within the last 3 races, but they had transmission woes with Alonso's car in Malaysia and strong rumours that Massa's engine had died by the end (to make it two as Alonso's engine cried enough after getting forced up to jet engine rpms)

If the race is wet, I would expect McLaren to be strong, but in the dry I think they are joint 2nd fastest with Ferrari and Mercedes.

Will we see Schumacher outqualify Rosberg for the first time since his comeback?

Robert Kubica has been outperforming the Renault car for the last two GPs, Petrov showed some pace and some "Va-Va-Voom" (sorry paperbag ) in Malaysia, hopefully they will both perform well again.

Williams seem to have a very strong wet weather car, so will be hoping for rain. Will they have worked out what went wrong with Barrichello's car at the start in Malaysia?

Sauber need some luck. (And sponsers)

Toro Rosso punched well above their weight in Malaysia with a fine drive from Alguesari and Buemi looking "racey".

Force India have been getting stronger since the mid point of last season. Getting both cars into Q3 was a great achievement, and Sutil, especially, was brilliant. His defensive driving against Hamilton was top notch too.

Recent Autosport articles have suggested that the HRT team have serious issues with team structure and the design of the car. They seem to have some reliability now and Chandhock has been (surprisingly) outperforming Senna. Will Senna get the upper hand in China.

Virgin have some reliability issues that need sorting before they can get both drivers up to the front of the new teams battle.

Lotus, also, have reliability issues to be overcome. It is nice to see them being so open about their developments. It makes a nice change in F1.

So, no excuses for not trying some "local" cuisine.

I shall have 59 and 130 smile and the wife will have 64 and share my 130.

Bonus points for guessing correctly what that is. smile

My prediction:

WET

Ham
Hulk
Web

DRY

Vet
Web
Kub

As a footnote, can we try and keep this a nice thread please? I know I am not the only one who is tired of the petty bhing that the GP threads invariably turn into. Maybe we should set up "The Official Post Chinese GP 2010 bhing and Sniping Thread***SPOILERS***" and keep this thread nice.

Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Mazda Baiter said:
I shall have 59 and 130 smile and the wife will have 64 and share my 130.
don't forget the prawn crackers !

Mazda Baiter

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Man-At-Arms said:
Mazda Baiter said:
I shall have 59 and 130 smile and the wife will have 64 and share my 130.
don't forget the prawn crackers !
20 free with every order. smile

Mazda Baiter

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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BBC coverage times

Friday 16-4-2010
FP1-03:00
FP2-07:00

Saturday 17-4-2010
FP3-04:00
Q-07:00

Sunday 18-4-2010
Starting Grid-08:00
Race-08:00


I am guessing that the coverage starts at 8 am on sunday, but the webpage is not the best.

MiniMan64

19,351 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Mazda Baiter said:
As a footnote, can we try and keep this a nice thread please? I know I am not the only one who is tired of the petty bhing that the GP threads invariably turn into. Maybe we should set up "The Official Post Chinese GP 2010 bhing and Sniping Thread***SPOILERS***" and keep this thread nice.
Amen to that.

Early prediction based on a dry race has got to be Seb for the grid-to-flag win (pending more car disasters) followed by Alonso Hamilton Massa Button Schumacher and Kubica. Plus one boring race except for some pitstops shennighans between the Mclarens and Ferraris. Wet race and it's anyones guess but I'll take a pop at Herr Schumacher.

Dry:
Vet
Fred
Lewis
Massa
Button
Schumi
Kubica

Wet:
Schumi
Followed by whoever is left.

RonJohnson

341 posts

200 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Think that Fred and Schumi will be up for a fight after this weeks problems - think the Red Bulls may take some beating though. Would be good to see a race without the (now normal) PH Hamilton/Button bashing.

kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Well, I called it right (winner-wise) for Sepang so - again with more luck than judgement:

1=Rosberg
2=Button
3=Hamilton

For no other reasons than Rosberg is due a win, the McLarens have that faff duct thing that makes them faster on the straights, Hamilton has bad memories of the place, and Rosberg is due for a win......thereyougo. As scientific as that wink


mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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RonJohnson said:
Think that Fred and Schumi will be up for a fight after this weeks problems - think the Red Bulls may take some beating though. Would be good to see a race without the (now normal) PH Hamilton/Button bashing.
Makes a change from the constant Massa bashing from last year eh? tongue out

Aused

293 posts

198 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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WEB
VET
BUT

Al W

591 posts

256 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Mazda Baiter said:
As a footnote, can we try and keep this a nice thread please? I know I am not the only one who is tired of the petty bhing that the GP threads invariably turn into. Maybe we should set up "The Official Post Chinese GP 2010 bhing and Sniping Thread***SPOILERS***" and keep this thread nice.
clap

How significant were the Ferrari engine failures for FA + (both?) Saubers in Sepang? I hope it's sorted so Alonso is able to take the fight to Red Bull with the McMercs.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Mazda Baiter said:
As a footnote, can we try and keep this a nice thread please? I know I am not the only one who is tired of the petty bhing that the GP threads invariably turn into. Maybe we should set up "The Official Post Chinese GP 2010 bhing and Sniping Thread***SPOILERS***" and keep this thread nice.
Kind of ironic but plus one anyway wink

1.Vettel
2.Alonso
3.Hamilton
4.Webber
5.Massa
6.Button
7.Kubica
8.Petrov
9.Rosberg
10.Kobayashi(what the hell) smile


hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Not being funny, but why on Earth have you made this thread when the race is two weekends away? Do you think there is some sort of kudos to starting every Grand Prix thread?

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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hornetrider said:
Not being funny, but why on Earth have you made this thread when the race is two weekends away? Do you think there is some sort of kudos to starting every Grand Prix thread?
shhhh, it's 'official' thread smile

Mazda Baiter

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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hornetrider said:
Not being funny, but why on Earth have you made this thread when the race is two weekends away? Do you think there is some sort of kudos to starting every Grand Prix thread?
Not at all. Autosport will start running articles very soon about the Chinese race, this would be the appropriate place to discuss them. Otherwise the General Motorsport front page gets cluttered with lots of threads which have a natural home here. I don't think there is any "points" to be had from starting the GP threads.

TBH I think that the Malaysian thread has run it's course and I would like there to be somewhere to chat about F1 without wading through loads of threads, only for them to all eventually be a Hamilton love in vs a Hamilton hate-fest.

No hidden agenda, I just enjoy decent banter and discussion. smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Hmmm, I have a different view. I reckon the race threads should be for the race itself and the build up close beforehand. If there are any general issues relating to F1 then they need their own threads - as the topics discussed may go on for a long time when discussing development issues for example. These should not get lost in a race thread.

Also it helps the search function if in future one wished to refer to a certain issue - then it is in its own thread. Still, no-one is going to stop you starting a new 'Official' thread 5 minutes after the previous race ends.


MiniMan64

19,351 posts

219 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Are the outboard mirrors gone for China or is that at the start of the European season?

llewop

3,956 posts

240 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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MiniMan64 said:
Are the outboard mirrors gone for China or is that at the start of the European season?
They have put it back to Europe I think, thought I read it on Autosport this week but can't find it now. cost and faff of flying the bits out to China being the logic.


plg

4,106 posts

239 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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llewop said:
MiniMan64 said:
Are the outboard mirrors gone for China or is that at the start of the European season?
They have put it back to Europe I think, thought I read it on Autosport this week but can't find it now. cost and faff of flying the bits out to China being the logic.
I find this one a strange position - teams can find the capability to bring aero updates - eg, trial F-ducts (Sauber), and new rear diffuser units (eg, to replace strangely large starter motor access holes) but not a safety issue like mirrors?

Mazda Baiter

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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plg said:
llewop said:
MiniMan64 said:
Are the outboard mirrors gone for China or is that at the start of the European season?
They have put it back to Europe I think, thought I read it on Autosport this week but can't find it now. cost and faff of flying the bits out to China being the logic.
I find this one a strange position - teams can find the capability to bring aero updates - eg, trial F-ducts (Sauber), and new rear diffuser units (eg, to replace strangely large starter motor access holes) but not a safety issue like mirrors?
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/MIRRORS-SPA-MIRRORS-Formula/c232_233_509/index.html

Problem solved.

"Hello, yes, 24 right hand and 24 left hand mirrors please. Do you do next day DHL? Lovely, Shanghai racing circuit please. C/O Martin Whitmarsh, Head of FOTA. Thank you very much, pleasure doing business with you."

wink

johnaachen

668 posts

246 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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What with the accidents that we have had this year (thankfully none have meant any injuries) do you think that these could have been avoided if there had been more winter testing? I am thinking of Vettel's brake failure, Schumachers rear left wheel, Kobayshi's front wing. These are not the usual engine/hydraulic/gearbox problems that we have seen in previous seasons. I worry that one of these days (probably at the start of the season) we are going to have an accident caused by a car's failure that could have been sorted had there been more testing allowance.

So after 3 races this season it hasn't gone the way I think most people had suspected in the battle of the teammates. Nico has beaten MS (even if MS has had reliability issues), Massa hasn't been at all out classed by Alonso and Button and LH have shown 2 very different approaches to running a GP with one being more exciting to watch than the other but so far no more succesful....