MSA English rally Championship - Dukeries stages
Discussion
I photographed the Chatsworth Rally event last year and enjoyed it so much that I would like to do something similar, again.
I was just flicking through random websites and came across an MSA ERC link and the Dukeries stages. As this is as close to the doorstep as I'm likely to get can anyone offer some info/advice on these stages and what to expect? Are there any jumps/fjords on any of these stages, which is the best stage/part of stage for photographers, can you get to more than one stage in the day, etc? Maybe last years info is useless if the stages have changed.
Any info (+1 for pics) will be greatly appreciated.
Anyone planning on attending this year?
Many thanks,
Scott
I was just flicking through random websites and came across an MSA ERC link and the Dukeries stages. As this is as close to the doorstep as I'm likely to get can anyone offer some info/advice on these stages and what to expect? Are there any jumps/fjords on any of these stages, which is the best stage/part of stage for photographers, can you get to more than one stage in the day, etc? Maybe last years info is useless if the stages have changed.
Any info (+1 for pics) will be greatly appreciated.
Anyone planning on attending this year?
Many thanks,
Scott
Scott,
The Sherwood Forest area has a load of forest tracks that are avaiolable for various configurations so what you get event by event will be fairly similar but not identical. There may or may not be jumps of any stature. (Water) fords are rare in the forest butif it is wet enough mud holes can develop.
I was at the Robin Hood Forest Stages events that were run in March in 2006 to 2008 but sadly not in 2009 and 2010. It used the same areas of the forest. To get a feel for it the forest section are open to walkers and cyclists, the most popular area being near the Centre Parcs holiday site. In that section there is a large public car park which is convenient for exploring.
For the Robin Hood in 2008 the organisers kindly allowed me to accompany them on one of the recces with a view to setting up some locations at which I could use my camera mast rig. In many cases the stages, or parts of them, are use more than once during the event. This is how they keep the event compact and fit it into a day without needing to recruit the entire population of the UK as marshalls. Pick the right area and you should be able to visit 3 or 4 stages during the day - but they will likely all be quite similar.
For the Robin Hood in 2008 I was able to set up on stage by special arrangement. However once on stage with the car I had to stay there until the stage was closed thus limiting the opportunities for getting elsewhere. The Saturday night session was not a problem - only one stage would have been possible anyway. The Sunday daytime session gave me an hour from the close of the morning stage to the competition opening of the selected afternoon stage. I only just made it by seconds due to Sunday traffic.
You can find some shots from that event here. Bear in mind that the elevated shots will likely be impossible unless you are very adept at climbing trees!
These were taken at just 3 locations but hopefully will provide some idea of the type of stages you would find on the Dukeries. If you visit the Lindholme Motor Club web site you should find some links to their gallery of the class winnner from the Robin Hood over previous recent years. Also a good indication of the sort of stages to be found (though potentially warmer, drier and dustier in June compared to March!)
HTH.
The Sherwood Forest area has a load of forest tracks that are avaiolable for various configurations so what you get event by event will be fairly similar but not identical. There may or may not be jumps of any stature. (Water) fords are rare in the forest butif it is wet enough mud holes can develop.
I was at the Robin Hood Forest Stages events that were run in March in 2006 to 2008 but sadly not in 2009 and 2010. It used the same areas of the forest. To get a feel for it the forest section are open to walkers and cyclists, the most popular area being near the Centre Parcs holiday site. In that section there is a large public car park which is convenient for exploring.
For the Robin Hood in 2008 the organisers kindly allowed me to accompany them on one of the recces with a view to setting up some locations at which I could use my camera mast rig. In many cases the stages, or parts of them, are use more than once during the event. This is how they keep the event compact and fit it into a day without needing to recruit the entire population of the UK as marshalls. Pick the right area and you should be able to visit 3 or 4 stages during the day - but they will likely all be quite similar.
For the Robin Hood in 2008 I was able to set up on stage by special arrangement. However once on stage with the car I had to stay there until the stage was closed thus limiting the opportunities for getting elsewhere. The Saturday night session was not a problem - only one stage would have been possible anyway. The Sunday daytime session gave me an hour from the close of the morning stage to the competition opening of the selected afternoon stage. I only just made it by seconds due to Sunday traffic.
You can find some shots from that event here. Bear in mind that the elevated shots will likely be impossible unless you are very adept at climbing trees!
These were taken at just 3 locations but hopefully will provide some idea of the type of stages you would find on the Dukeries. If you visit the Lindholme Motor Club web site you should find some links to their gallery of the class winnner from the Robin Hood over previous recent years. Also a good indication of the sort of stages to be found (though potentially warmer, drier and dustier in June compared to March!)
HTH.
Just found this video from the Dukeries 2008 which looks typical and in some parts quite familiar!
At 7:11 they take the tight bend where I shot the remote release ground shots in the daytime section. It's in the reverse direction though. So at about 7:18 on the up hill right that is where my elevated shots show the cars taking a left (to them) tail out.
At about 4:03 as they are taking a right/left there is a patch of grass on the right from which I got some great shots on the 2006 event when the stage looped aroound and came back to the same point from the other direction. A 2 for 1 opportunity without moving.
Back at about 3:29 they go through a gate and turn right. Nice and open around there and relatively high speed but as you can see from other sections of the video there are some very tight and narrow sections available as well. What you get on the day should be a mix but how the mix pans out depends on the options the organisers have been able to negotiate with the Forestry Commission.
Some of the other woods are slightly different in character but not that much. There are a few wide open sections available if they choose to use them as you can see from my shots. (Be sure to click on the thumbnails to get the fuller image.
At 7:11 they take the tight bend where I shot the remote release ground shots in the daytime section. It's in the reverse direction though. So at about 7:18 on the up hill right that is where my elevated shots show the cars taking a left (to them) tail out.
At about 4:03 as they are taking a right/left there is a patch of grass on the right from which I got some great shots on the 2006 event when the stage looped aroound and came back to the same point from the other direction. A 2 for 1 opportunity without moving.
Back at about 3:29 they go through a gate and turn right. Nice and open around there and relatively high speed but as you can see from other sections of the video there are some very tight and narrow sections available as well. What you get on the day should be a mix but how the mix pans out depends on the options the organisers have been able to negotiate with the Forestry Commission.
Some of the other woods are slightly different in character but not that much. There are a few wide open sections available if they choose to use them as you can see from my shots. (Be sure to click on the thumbnails to get the fuller image.
If it's the rally I'm thinking of then it's centred on Sherwood Pines near Mansfield - here
Website: http://www.dukeries-rally.co.uk/
There are several rallies held in this location and it's good place for pictures - easily accessible, compact, a range of corners and either open or wooded tracks. For an idea, here's my pics from the 2008 Robin Hood which is held in the same place.
Website: http://www.dukeries-rally.co.uk/
There are several rallies held in this location and it's good place for pictures - easily accessible, compact, a range of corners and either open or wooded tracks. For an idea, here's my pics from the 2008 Robin Hood which is held in the same place.
moribund said:
Nice shots.moribund said:
Cheers - likewise
Love the different view you have. I guess you drove a cherry-picker onto the stages?
Thanks.
Love the different view you have. I guess you drove a cherry-picker onto the stages?Pneumatic mast. Picture on the site home page. You may need a little patience if you click. For some reason we have not pinned down the site takes an age to open on first access. It's OK after that, usually. You have probably already noticed.
My chosen location for the Sunday afternoon stage was 2 corners after what had become a mud filled hole. There was no way the Saab was going to get through it (or so I was told by a marshall with a Landy) so I stopped at the plan B corner and got the 'fast open bend' shots. A little too far away for what I wanted but not much I could do about it. Ditto for the remotely operated camera. Slightly too far away. I have an alternative lens now and an alternative remote monitor and shutter activator so I suppose I should try and set something up for June.
LongQ said:
You may need a little patience if you click. For some reason we have not pinned down the site takes an age to open on first access. It's OK after that, usually. You have probably already noticed.
First GuessIs your server trying to perform a reverse DNS lookup on the IP address of the visitor? If so then it may be that your DNS server settings are borked (for instance, on Unix / Linux, resolv.conf may contain an invalid DNS server ahead of other, valid, servers) and that you're getting a timeout on the reverse DNS lookup.
If that's the case, turn off reverse DNS lookups - they seldom add any value to you (and you could always run an offline script against the web logs if you really need them) - and get the performance back.
I note that your machine seems to be running MS IIS on Windows Server 2003; I'm afraid I don't know the specifics about reverse DNS on Windows.
Second Guess
It looks like your server is sitting at a static IP on the end of a line on a Be Unlimited package from Be Broadband. Your ICMP ping stats are pretty good (27ms from my box in telehouse, 40ms from a Virgin cable link), so it doesn't look like a link latency issue.
However, do you have some configuration issues relating to the multiple naming needed by such a set-up? It looks like you're set up to support multiple virtual hosts, so that the machine responds to www.scene-from-above.com but not to 78-86-234-113.zone2.bethere.co.uk or just 78.86.234.113 (it reports an invalid host if you try it).
Third Guess
You're clearly running CFM rather than ASP.NET, so you're obviously not knocking on the door of the classic ASP.NET first page load / re-compilation issues which many have.
However, are you seeing a problem if you do a simple "hello world" HTML page rather than a CFM page? Do you have any other services off / set to manual? Others have reported similar behaviour to yours when having Cold Fusion installed by not running (but serving non-CFM pages) simply because IIS looks for all of the possible options / services and waits until timeout for them to be available!
Which version of Cold Fusion are you running, and which JVM? You might want to see if this link helps you out at all.
Let me know if you need any other suggestions / assistance! In the mean time, what a great device you have there. Have you tried using it for moving images, where Pole Cam is a big player? Is it your tech or bought-in? How stable is the platform (assuming wind etc not a factor)? I might be able to put a bit of business your way depending upon the answers to the above.
skwdenyer - thanks for taking the time to do such a comprehensive analysis.
The server is run by a friend of mine and hosts some of his smaller clients. He runs a web based multi-client portal business but these days most of his clients are larger and running on hosted servers in fully supported centre scattered around the place. I think there are only a couple of us left on the smaller local system.
There was no problem, other than a much slower line speed, prior to the change to BE sometime last year. To be honest neither of us have been concerned enough to address the speed of first access issue since that time but maybe should look into it now ready for the next burst of activity. The site is, currently, more of a storage repository than an on-line marketing tool.
He's on holiday at the moment so I'll have a word with him next week, if time allows, and go through your suggestions. I'm guessing that one or more of them will instantly suggest a solution to him. I'll report back when we have actually managed to do something. It would certainly be good not to have to warn people about the delay!
The server is run by a friend of mine and hosts some of his smaller clients. He runs a web based multi-client portal business but these days most of his clients are larger and running on hosted servers in fully supported centre scattered around the place. I think there are only a couple of us left on the smaller local system.
There was no problem, other than a much slower line speed, prior to the change to BE sometime last year. To be honest neither of us have been concerned enough to address the speed of first access issue since that time but maybe should look into it now ready for the next burst of activity. The site is, currently, more of a storage repository than an on-line marketing tool.
He's on holiday at the moment so I'll have a word with him next week, if time allows, and go through your suggestions. I'm guessing that one or more of them will instantly suggest a solution to him. I'll report back when we have actually managed to do something. It would certainly be good not to have to warn people about the delay!
[quote=skwdenyer In the mean time, what a great device you have there. Have you tried using it for moving images, where Pole Cam is a big player? Is it your tech or bought-in? How stable is the platform (assuming wind etc not a factor)? I might be able to put a bit of business your way depending upon the answers to the above.
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Now to answer this part separately so it can have a life of its own if need be!
I have not used it for moving images but some people do. There is no reason why the one shouldn't if one can connect somehow to control the camera and have a suitable pan and tilt head that allows one to follow the action. That said the T&P heads offering such a capability tend to be quite large and my mast has a lowish head weight limit when used full extended. You can get bigger and heavier masts to counter that and just recently my original supplier mentioned they are now doing a mast that is only slightly heavier than mine but has a much higher fully extended head weight rating. On the other hand even a little heavier makes one person handling a tad marginal in some respects. To counter that they have a different vehicle mounting method - which is great but somewhat more permanent than mine is currently. It also, on the Saab or most estate cars, compromises the ability to use the tailgate when the system is set up .... and so on. Why are lunches never free?
I bought the system as a kit (I have a tripod and a buggy for off-vehicle use in different environments). On the car, outdoors, the system is pretty stable and acts like a giant tripod mount. In still air I can shoot pin sharp images at full zoom on a Canon S3 IS at 1/10th of a second. That surprised me.
The wind will gently blow the mast around, how much depends on how far it is extended, but that is more a framing issue than anything for a still camera. Obviously not so for video though. I have a set of guy ropes that, if deployed, allow the mast to be used in wind up to 50mph but to be honest they are a pain to deploy when single manned and I rarely use them, especially when attached to a vehicle. The tripod would be a different matter. They could be used with the buggy but then the whole point of the buggy is mobility so would not make much sense. I suspect that the extra stability the guy ropes offer would be a more regular requirement for serious video work.
The guys I got the kit from also supply bigger vehicle mounted video based systems, mainly for security and incident type coverage (as far as I know). So a fairly static view most of th time rather than action tracking. However that does not imply a limitation to the use - just a market driven specification for the equipment needs.
Until recently there were not many stills cameras that provided a remote control SDK - Canon being the only ones really and then not with all models. With the wider introduction of Live View that seems to be changing and recent Nikon cameras can now be remotely controlled.
Bridge cameras also offer zoom control. DSLRs - not yet as a commercial offering but that may be changing slowly, partly due to the introduction of video in that class of camera. A handful of people have created their own DSLR Zoom lens controllers. It all adds to the headweight of course.
I assume that any video cameras with remote control capability (more than just on/off and start/stop!) would also be usable.
I have seen web sites of a few people with this sort of rig who seem to offer video capability but I have no idea how much work they do with it. I'll see if I can re-discover the useful URLs and will send you a PM when I have them. It may be a day or so before I have them collected.
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Now to answer this part separately so it can have a life of its own if need be!
I have not used it for moving images but some people do. There is no reason why the one shouldn't if one can connect somehow to control the camera and have a suitable pan and tilt head that allows one to follow the action. That said the T&P heads offering such a capability tend to be quite large and my mast has a lowish head weight limit when used full extended. You can get bigger and heavier masts to counter that and just recently my original supplier mentioned they are now doing a mast that is only slightly heavier than mine but has a much higher fully extended head weight rating. On the other hand even a little heavier makes one person handling a tad marginal in some respects. To counter that they have a different vehicle mounting method - which is great but somewhat more permanent than mine is currently. It also, on the Saab or most estate cars, compromises the ability to use the tailgate when the system is set up .... and so on. Why are lunches never free?

I bought the system as a kit (I have a tripod and a buggy for off-vehicle use in different environments). On the car, outdoors, the system is pretty stable and acts like a giant tripod mount. In still air I can shoot pin sharp images at full zoom on a Canon S3 IS at 1/10th of a second. That surprised me.
The wind will gently blow the mast around, how much depends on how far it is extended, but that is more a framing issue than anything for a still camera. Obviously not so for video though. I have a set of guy ropes that, if deployed, allow the mast to be used in wind up to 50mph but to be honest they are a pain to deploy when single manned and I rarely use them, especially when attached to a vehicle. The tripod would be a different matter. They could be used with the buggy but then the whole point of the buggy is mobility so would not make much sense. I suspect that the extra stability the guy ropes offer would be a more regular requirement for serious video work.
The guys I got the kit from also supply bigger vehicle mounted video based systems, mainly for security and incident type coverage (as far as I know). So a fairly static view most of th time rather than action tracking. However that does not imply a limitation to the use - just a market driven specification for the equipment needs.
Until recently there were not many stills cameras that provided a remote control SDK - Canon being the only ones really and then not with all models. With the wider introduction of Live View that seems to be changing and recent Nikon cameras can now be remotely controlled.
Bridge cameras also offer zoom control. DSLRs - not yet as a commercial offering but that may be changing slowly, partly due to the introduction of video in that class of camera. A handful of people have created their own DSLR Zoom lens controllers. It all adds to the headweight of course.
I assume that any video cameras with remote control capability (more than just on/off and start/stop!) would also be usable.
I have seen web sites of a few people with this sort of rig who seem to offer video capability but I have no idea how much work they do with it. I'll see if I can re-discover the useful URLs and will send you a PM when I have them. It may be a day or so before I have them collected.
Sorry for not responding sooner. Been off the radar a few days.
Thanks for the very comprehensive posts - a lot to take it but worth the headache
I'll have to get hold of the relevant OS map and have a look at all the tracks. It's not far so I'll hopefully drive in and have a walk round it as well.
Any idea how far in advance the actual stage courses are marked? I take it you can be anywhere on the course you like (ie not next to a marshal)?
Will read through these posts again to make sure I've taken it all in.
Will be looking at the pics you've linked to, as well.
Thanks heaps,
Scott
Thanks for the very comprehensive posts - a lot to take it but worth the headache

I'll have to get hold of the relevant OS map and have a look at all the tracks. It's not far so I'll hopefully drive in and have a walk round it as well.
Any idea how far in advance the actual stage courses are marked? I take it you can be anywhere on the course you like (ie not next to a marshal)?
Will read through these posts again to make sure I've taken it all in.
Will be looking at the pics you've linked to, as well.
Thanks heaps,
Scott
LongQ said:
skwdenyer - thanks for taking the time to do such a comprehensive analysis.
The server is run by a friend of mine and hosts some of his smaller clients. He runs a web based multi-client portal business but these days most of his clients are larger and running on hosted servers in fully supported centre scattered around the place. I think there are only a couple of us left on the smaller local system.
There was no problem, other than a much slower line speed, prior to the change to BE sometime last year. To be honest neither of us have been concerned enough to address the speed of first access issue since that time but maybe should look into it now ready for the next burst of activity. The site is, currently, more of a storage repository than an on-line marketing tool.
He's on holiday at the moment so I'll have a word with him next week, if time allows, and go through your suggestions. I'm guessing that one or more of them will instantly suggest a solution to him. I'll report back when we have actually managed to do something. It would certainly be good not to have to warn people about the delay!
Hi. That's interesting. In certain circumstances, Windows servers don't like being moved to new IP addresses. It might be that the move to BE was more of an "any move will do" as regards the fault cropping up. It could be something as simple as the server still trying to use the DNS servers from the previous ISP (which would probably not respond and, therefore, timeout from a BE connection) - to be fair, that could also trip up a Linux / Unix server. IME Windows is a tricky beast to use as a web server, but then we all stick with what we know best The server is run by a friend of mine and hosts some of his smaller clients. He runs a web based multi-client portal business but these days most of his clients are larger and running on hosted servers in fully supported centre scattered around the place. I think there are only a couple of us left on the smaller local system.
There was no problem, other than a much slower line speed, prior to the change to BE sometime last year. To be honest neither of us have been concerned enough to address the speed of first access issue since that time but maybe should look into it now ready for the next burst of activity. The site is, currently, more of a storage repository than an on-line marketing tool.
He's on holiday at the moment so I'll have a word with him next week, if time allows, and go through your suggestions. I'm guessing that one or more of them will instantly suggest a solution to him. I'll report back when we have actually managed to do something. It would certainly be good not to have to warn people about the delay!

In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
skwdenyer said:
Hi. That's interesting. In certain circumstances, Windows servers don't like being moved to new IP addresses. It might be that the move to BE was more of an "any move will do" as regards the fault cropping up. It could be something as simple as the server still trying to use the DNS servers from the previous ISP (which would probably not respond and, therefore, timeout from a BE connection) - to be fair, that could also trip up a Linux / Unix server. IME Windows is a tricky beast to use as a web server, but then we all stick with what we know best 
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
I have not noticed any permanent delays once the initial connection has ben achieved - I'll look out for them now you have mentioned it. One gets used to things - fresh eyes are welcome. I will confess that some of the files, if you click through the thumbnails, are rather larger than would be ideal for internet use. They are there to offer a feel for how large an image can be taken for viewong and printing purposes. I may not have offered a warning for all of the big ones!
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
We did have a few issues when running on a previous server (hence it was replaced) but not really to do with speed, more to do with it locking up too often. To be fair the current machine is not particularly configured for fast response as might be the case in a server farm. It's just a common or garden PC.
The previous ISP was a dedicated Business supplier rather than a general client ISP. They offered a great line quality and service wiht low contention ratios but slower line speeds and higher costs. As more of the main business users grew to require 'full house' services (and the cost of those services came down) they were migrated away leaving a much reduced 'business standard' requirement for the local server.
Thanks for the observations though - I'll take it up with them next week if his schedule allows the time. I know he has a few software features available that are not used in my site setup yet - maybe it's time for a concerted update.
LongQ said:
skwdenyer said:
Hi. That's interesting. In certain circumstances, Windows servers don't like being moved to new IP addresses. It might be that the move to BE was more of an "any move will do" as regards the fault cropping up. It could be something as simple as the server still trying to use the DNS servers from the previous ISP (which would probably not respond and, therefore, timeout from a BE connection) - to be fair, that could also trip up a Linux / Unix server. IME Windows is a tricky beast to use as a web server, but then we all stick with what we know best 
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
I have not noticed any permanent delays once the initial connection has ben achieved - I'll look out for them now you have mentioned it. One gets used to things - fresh eyes are welcome. I will confess that some of the files, if you click through the thumbnails, are rather larger than would be ideal for internet use. They are there to offer a feel for how large an image can be taken for viewong and printing purposes. I may not have offered a warning for all of the big ones!
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
We did have a few issues when running on a previous server (hence it was replaced) but not really to do with speed, more to do with it locking up too often. To be fair the current machine is not particularly configured for fast response as might be the case in a server farm. It's just a common or garden PC.
The previous ISP was a dedicated Business supplier rather than a general client ISP. They offered a great line quality and service wiht low contention ratios but slower line speeds and higher costs. As more of the main business users grew to require 'full house' services (and the cost of those services came down) they were migrated away leaving a much reduced 'business standard' requirement for the local server.
Thanks for the observations though - I'll take it up with them next week if his schedule allows the time. I know he has a few software features available that are not used in my site setup yet - maybe it's time for a concerted update.
Seems faster after the weekend so I popped in to see him yesterday and asked him what he did. "Nothing", he said, "other than having a look at the settings on the router. Literally a look, nothing changed."
Don't you just love technology?
Need a second opinion really. It still seems OK here on several machines and through at least 3 of the available URLs. Does it seem ok 'out in the wild' as well?
LongQ said:
LongQ said:
skwdenyer said:
Hi. That's interesting. In certain circumstances, Windows servers don't like being moved to new IP addresses. It might be that the move to BE was more of an "any move will do" as regards the fault cropping up. It could be something as simple as the server still trying to use the DNS servers from the previous ISP (which would probably not respond and, therefore, timeout from a BE connection) - to be fair, that could also trip up a Linux / Unix server. IME Windows is a tricky beast to use as a web server, but then we all stick with what we know best 
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
I have not noticed any permanent delays once the initial connection has ben achieved - I'll look out for them now you have mentioned it. One gets used to things - fresh eyes are welcome. I will confess that some of the files, if you click through the thumbnails, are rather larger than would be ideal for internet use. They are there to offer a feel for how large an image can be taken for viewong and printing purposes. I may not have offered a warning for all of the big ones!
In trying to access you site, I found that anything more than a few seconds between page accesses resulted in the same problem, which rather put me off browsing your site. Which is a shame, as it looked interesting!
We did have a few issues when running on a previous server (hence it was replaced) but not really to do with speed, more to do with it locking up too often. To be fair the current machine is not particularly configured for fast response as might be the case in a server farm. It's just a common or garden PC.
The previous ISP was a dedicated Business supplier rather than a general client ISP. They offered a great line quality and service wiht low contention ratios but slower line speeds and higher costs. As more of the main business users grew to require 'full house' services (and the cost of those services came down) they were migrated away leaving a much reduced 'business standard' requirement for the local server.
Thanks for the observations though - I'll take it up with them next week if his schedule allows the time. I know he has a few software features available that are not used in my site setup yet - maybe it's time for a concerted update.
Seems faster after the weekend so I popped in to see him yesterday and asked him what he did. "Nothing", he said, "other than having a look at the settings on the router. Literally a look, nothing changed."
Don't you just love technology?
Need a second opinion really. It still seems OK here on several machines and through at least 3 of the available URLs. Does it seem ok 'out in the wild' as well?
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