Fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing - Brawn
Fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing - Brawn
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Wanta996Gotta

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236 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Ross Brawn on Schmacher,Jenson and Lewis(fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83157

Mercedes GP boss Ross Brawn insists Michael Schumacher remains determined to succeed again despite his slow start to the 2010 season.

The seven-time champion has been outqualified and outraced by team-mate Nico Rosberg in the first four races of the year, and he has managed just 10 points compared to Rosberg's 50.

Brawn says, however, that Schumacher is far from ready to throw in the towel and reckons the German will enjoy a stronger outing in Spain next week.

"Michael is determined to succeed. He was always his own best and worst critic," Brawn was quoted as saying by the the Sun newspaper. "He is incredibly dedicated and competitive but also very structured.

"He is not the sort of guy who will panic when things aren't going well. He will analyse what is happening and reflecting on that and, for sure, the race in Shanghai was disappointing.

"But we are already getting to understand the reasons for that and are learning lessons from that. We have to make sure that in Barcelona for the next race we get it right and perform better.

"His experience is very useful and that was part of the thinking when he joined the team. The biggest challenge is for everyone to treat him normally as he is such an icon."

Brawn also praised his former driver Jenson Button for his performance so far this year as Lewis Hamilton's team-mate at McLaren.

And he admitted he was sorry to see Button leave after winning the title last year.

"I was disappointed Jenson left," he said. "He felt people were of the opinion he only won the world championship because he had the best car. So he left us to show them he could do it again elsewhere.

"We are still friends. We were on the same flight back from Malaysia and we had a good chat. But on the racetrack it is different. There are no friends on the racetrack.

"Jenson was a fabulous member of our team last year but now he is the history and we have to beat him.

"He also wanted to prove himself at McLaren against the guy who is probably the fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing - Lewis Hamilton. He's set himself a massive challenge and he is doing very well so far."

Fantastic hearing this from the man that F1/Ferrari fans idolise

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 27th April 12:09

jellison

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306 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Bellof, Senna wink

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
I think the operative words there are "...who is..." not "...who was/were..."

And if we are playing that game, which we aren't, we have to throw at least another 4 or 5 names in the hat...

Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.


Dogsey

4,301 posts

259 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Wanta996Gotta said:
... the guy who is probably the fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing ...
Has Loeb joined McLaren then? wink

jellison

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306 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Indeed the BEST drivers in the world are clearly the Top Rally Drivers.

And who is Fred.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Indeed the BEST drivers in the world are clearly the Top Rally Drivers.

And who is Fred.
Fred = Fernando Alonso

As for the OP rofl

Wanta996Gotta

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5,622 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Indeed the BEST drivers in the world are clearly the Top Rally Drivers.

And who is Fred.
Did Loeb not make a fool of himself in F1 testing last year? I dont think you can compare the diciplines atall though Kimi has done not too bad "recently".

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 27th April 13:22

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Indeed the BEST drivers in the world are clearly the Top Rally Drivers.

And who is Fred.
Bravest possibly, but there are great drivers in many different motorsports. I don't think Loeb can match McNish in an LMP car, McNish couldn't match Raikkonen in an F1 car and Raikkonen can't match Loeb in a rally car. Horses for courses and all that. smile

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
not so sure about Senna (yes I await a flaming) but Bellof was something else, we will never know how good he could have become, but in his short racing life, he really did have the natural talent.

I would also put Jim Clarke in the same list, just a natural.

DJC

23,563 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.
Are you even remotely serious?

You think Senna had a fair amount of skill, not an unmatchable one?
You think Prost had not so much of a work ethic?

The same Prost known as the most hard working driver since JYS and Moss before him? The same Prost who damn near died pushing his car over the line for 6th?
I dont even know where to start about your view on Senna.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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DJC said:
Castrol Craig said:
jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.
Are you even remotely serious?

You think Senna had a fair amount of skill, not an unmatchable one?
You think Prost had not so much of a work ethic?

The same Prost known as the most hard working driver since JYS and Moss before him? The same Prost who damn near died pushing his car over the line for 6th?
I dont even know where to start about your view on Senna.
Also not sure Nigel was known for he's work ethic hehe

Forbes82

812 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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DJC said:
Castrol Craig said:
jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.
Are you even remotely serious?

You think Senna had a fair amount of skill, not an unmatchable one?
You think Prost had not so much of a work ethic?

The same Prost known as the most hard working driver since JYS and Moss before him? The same Prost who damn near died pushing his car over the line for 6th?
I dont even know where to start about your view on Senna.
+1, Most of those names make no sense at all in the groupings, particularly Prost and Senna.

hairykrishna

14,494 posts

232 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.
Can I have some of what you're smoking?

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Of the guys from the last 30 years, Senna, Mansell, (Bellof never really had a run at it), Lewis, FA and Schumi and Prost (but not on raw pace). Oh and Obviously Vettel.

Edited by jellison on Tuesday 27th April 15:23

Al W

591 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Scuffers said:
I would also put Jim Clarke in the same list, just a natural.
That extra 'e' could get you lynched round here smile

Can't believe this has turned into another pointless 'best ever' debate...
The Loeb v McNish v Raikkonen v Loeb post sums it up nicely

Steamer

14,176 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
jellison said:
Bellof, Senna wink
i may get flamed for this, but i honestly think that Lewis and Fred are probably the most talented drivers ever. some drivers have a fair amount of skill and huge work ethic, some have unmatchable amounts of skill and not so much of a work ethic.

id class Senna, Schumacher, Mansell, Button and Hill in the first, whilst placing Hamilton, Alonso & Prost in the second.
When you talk about Fred - I think he is (at the moment, and has been for a little while) the best 'package'. Maybe not the fastest every race... but in a reliable, top 5 car - hes the safest bet IMHO (until Schumacher gets rid of the cobwebs).

Al W

591 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Scuffers said:
I would also put Jim Clarke in the same list, just a natural.
That extra 'e' could get you lynched round here smile

Can't believe this has turned into another pointless 'best ever' debate...
The Loeb v McNish v Raikkonen v Loeb post sums it up nicely

Nic jones

7,186 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Dogsey said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
... the guy who is probably the fastest and most naturally talented in motor racing ...
Has Loeb joined McLaren then? wink
When did rallying becoming racing? confused

Totally different ball game.

Bombjack

483 posts

296 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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jellison said:
Of the guys from the last 20 years, Senna, Mansell, (Bellof never really had a run at it), Lewis, FA and Schumi and Prost (but not on raw pace). Oh and Obviously Vettel.
This isn't the right thread, but I'm starting to wonder what's wrong with me that I can't see this greatness in Vettel. He strikes me as a more consistent version of Massa - very good when out front in the best a well-balanced car, average otherwise.

Edited by Bombjack on Tuesday 27th April 15:33