RE: Hamilton Officially Charged Over Aussie GP Burnout
RE: Hamilton Officially Charged Over Aussie GP Burnout
Monday 24th May 2010

Hamilton Officially Charged Over Aussie GP Burnout

F1 ace's case to appear before Melbourne court in August



Lewis Hamilton has been officially charged for his 'over-exuberance' with the company C63 AMG before the Australian Grand Prix in March.

Hamilton's Australian solicitor has been served with a summons, charging Lewis with intentionally losing control of a vehicle.

Hamilton was stopped by the Victoria state police and had his company Mercedes impounded for two days for allegedly doing a burnout at the entrance to the Albert Park track on 26 March - thus contravening Victoria's strict 'anti-hoon' laws.

The case is set to come before the Melbourne Magistrates Court on 24 August. That's just five days before the Belgian GP, so the chances of Lewis attending in person seem pretty slim.

Still, whatever the Magistrates' verdict, the whole episode sends a pretty clear message to any potentially over-exuberant drivers heading to Melbourne: the police are watching your tyre smoke...

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heebeegeetee

30,138 posts

277 months

PhillT

2,489 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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"...wobbling the rear of a vehicle to slow it down"? Interesting description...

I'm no legal mind, but surely a lawyer worth his salt would be able to convince, well, anyone, that a Formula 1 world champion spinning the back wheels of a car had not lost control of the vehicle?

Jasandjules

72,583 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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PhillT said:
"...wobbling the rear of a vehicle to slow it down"? Interesting description...

I'm no legal mind, but surely a lawyer worth his salt would be able to convince, well, anyone, that a Formula 1 world champion spinning the back wheels of a car had not lost control of the vehicle?
Well, that was my first thought. A few bits of footage of Hamilton chucking it around the corners ought to be enough (they might want to skip the ones where he ends up off the road though....biggrin)

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Possible £360 fine! That'll teach him!

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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the bbc website says he was charged with "intentionally losing control of a vehicle"

firstly, is that not an oxymoron?

secondly, does wheel spin necessarily imply loss of control?

Jazoli

9,642 posts

279 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Nanny state Australia, coming to the UK soon.

Handled completely wrongly by Hamilton, making apologies to the media for his behaviour, grow a pair sonny, you should have just laughed it off rather than hiding in the back of the car looking guilty for the camera's!

stemll

5,558 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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DangerousMike said:
the bbc website says he was charged with "intentionally losing control of a vehicle"

firstly, is that not an oxymoron?

secondly, does wheel spin necessarily imply loss of control?
Agreed. I very much doubt he ever lost control but I also doubt that it'll be contested.

RJB_666

1,677 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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It's unbelievable. From what I heard the road was closed to public for the grand prix and he did it for fans. And think they need to define 'out of control'. He is just being made and example of and someone else trying to make a name for them self. Even webber slated the nanny state it's become. Just hope this attitude doesn't spread, the UK is bad enough as it is. It's probably only going to get worse.

flemke

23,482 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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DangerousMike said:
the bbc website says he was charged with "intentionally losing control of a vehicle"

firstly, is that not an oxymoron?

secondly, does wheel spin necessarily imply loss of control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urop7c5NJbg&feature=related

Captain Flashman

653 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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stemll said:
DangerousMike said:
the bbc website says he was charged with "intentionally losing control of a vehicle"

firstly, is that not an oxymoron?

secondly, does wheel spin necessarily imply loss of control?
Agreed. I very much doubt he ever lost control but I also doubt that it'll be contested.
I think it could be an interesting test case but i doubt it will happen. You have a much better chance of getting away with murder in Victoria than getting off a traffic charge.

130R

7,080 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Apparently the Aussie authorities are even more retarded than ours when it comes to things like this.

Captain Flashman

653 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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130R said:
Apparently the Aussie authorities are even more retarded than ours when it comes to things like this.
yep, i'm 6'2, 120kgs, have an honours degree, no criminal record and have to wait several years to enter the police force due my speeding tickets. It is insane, they have billboards on freeways with stuff like "if you don't slow down you will kill someone".

Mr E Driver

8,542 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Will the points go on a UK licence though? It really is a lot of fuss over nothing, it's just b0ll0cks isn't it?

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Captain Flashman said:
130R said:
Apparently the Aussie authorities are even more retarded than ours when it comes to things like this.
yep, i'm 6'2, 120kgs, have an honours degree, no criminal record and have to wait several years to enter the police force due my speeding tickets. It is insane, they have billboards on freeways with stuff like "if you don't slow down you will kill someone".
*crosses Australia off my places to live list*

I would think someone like Hamilton could powerslide his car at huge angles round any corner on a race track and remain in total control nevermind spin the wheels a bit, they are just coming across as having no common sense at all and I hope the high power lawyers McLaren will hire will tear them a new one.

Magog

2,653 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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He could plead not guilty, stand up in the dock and say 'I am the best driver in the world, I was always in control'.

The only way they could possibly prove that he wasn't would be to find a better driver and get them to disprove him, they'd have to call Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso for the prosecution.

wink



Jasandjules

72,583 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Magog said:
He could plead not guilty, stand up in the dock and say 'I am the best driver in the world, I was always in control'.

The only way they could possibly prove that he wasn't would be to find a better driver and get them to disprove him, they'd have to call Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso for the prosecution.

wink
Oh no, can open, worms everywhere.

bikemonster

1,188 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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In a bad case of unintended irony, when I viewed the story a banner ad came up, suggesting that I might want to immigrate to Aussie.

But that's not why I'm posting.

W.r.t. the points, when I visited Sydney on honeymoon, the then-new Mrs bikemonster and I borrowed my dad's Elise and went to get ice creams at Akuna Bay. I wore shorts and t-shirt, trainers and sunnies. I left my wallet and just took some money for ice creams.

And I got nabbed for speeding on a "double demerit weekend". Double points. Which, not having an Aussie driving licence was not a concern. The eye-wateringly, scrotum-shrivellingly fierce speeding ticket was. Then again, I was not so foolish as to intentionally lose control of the vehicle.

Point being, LH will not have to worry about the points.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

241 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Magog said:
He could plead not guilty, stand up in the dock and say 'I am the best driver in the world, I was always in control'.

The only way they could possibly prove that he wasn't would be to find a better driver and get them to disprove him, they'd have to call Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso for the prosecution.

wink
Arf! biggrin

He won't be in court anyway. it's 3 days before Spa. wink

Park'O

656 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Magog said:
He could plead not guilty, stand up in the dock and say 'I am the best driver in the world, I was always in control'.

The only way they could possibly prove that he wasn't would be to find a better driver and get them to disprove him, they'd have to call Fernando Alonso for the prosecution.

wink

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Captain Flashman said:
130R said:
Apparently the Aussie authorities are even more retarded than ours when it comes to things like this.
yep, i'm 6'2, 120kgs, have an honours degree, no criminal record and have to wait several years to enter the police force due my speeding tickets. It is insane, they have billboards on freeways with stuff like "if you don't slow down you will kill someone".
"Every K over is a killer". laugh