Classic British GP's on red button now.

[Marcia]

That's my evening sorted

[Mazda Baiter]

I've been waiting all week for the Beeb to finally get their asses in gear over this...and now I'm working.

I'll be up late tonight then.

[markcoznottz]

Sorry to appear thick but which red button?. On terrestrial, virgin, sky, which?. What channel?

[Paul_M3]

Anyone else managed to find this?

All I can get is World Cup related stuff.

[Mazda Baiter]

markcoznottz said:

Sorry to appear thick but which red button?. On terrestrial, virgin, sky, which?. What channel?

Sky, virgin, terrestrial, red button.

Freeview (gypovision - copyright JasandJules) channel 301

[SPR2]

Paul_M3 said:

Anyone else managed to find this?

All I can get is World Cup related stuff.

Same here

[Mazda Baiter]

Ok, the 1991 race. After the finish, Nigel stops to give Ayrton a lift. Check out the lout who runs onto the straight with a Union flag and pulls a mooner just after the Williams has driven past him, only to be congratulated by his moron mate.

It's like the crowd from one of the free World Series by Renault races.

[Whitefly Swatter]

Should be on the red button from 22:00 to 05:50 tonight

Edited by Whitefly Swatter on Thursday 8th July 09:05

[Eric Mc]

Whold be on the iPlayer as well. I watched the last Brands GP (1986) last might. Lovely stuff.

[Rude-boy]

Whitefly Swatter said:

Should be on the red button from 22:00 to 05:50 tonight

Edited by Whitefly Swatter on Thursday 8th July 09:05

Hope so, all i got last night was Fball

[Fire99]

Mazda Baiter said:

Ok, the 1991 race. After the finish, Nigel stops to give Ayrton a lift. Check out the lout who runs onto the straight with a Union flag and pulls a mooner just after the Williams has driven past him, only to be congratulated by his moron mate.

It's like the crowd from one of the free World Series by Renault races.

Got to keep your sense of humour with these things. There's always more than one wally around

F1 at Brands Hatch... Brilliant. Little bit rough round the edges. Wonderful.

Edit - Only sad bit really is that they even had 100 bhp more than today back in Brands Hatch days. Progress eh??

Edited by Fire99 on Thursday 8th July 10:00

[Rude-boy]

Fire99 said:

Edit - Only sad bit really is that they even had 100 bhp more than today back in Brands Hatch days. Progress eh??

On the flip side it is that progress which means that the cars are faster today, but need less power to be faster.

[Fire99]

Rude-boy said:

Fire99 said:

Edit - Only sad bit really is that they even had 100 bhp more than today back in Brands Hatch days. Progress eh??

On the flip side it is that progress which means that the cars are faster today, but need less power to be faster.

Cars are quicker in lap times. I agree. But the aero / power balance is all in the Aero favour and now we have cars that are so aero sensitive that it's made overtaking a nightmare and IMO the cars are too easy to drive.

Edited by Fire99 on Thursday 8th July 10:10

[Eric Mc]

Gaz. said:

The first Brands Hatch race (1982?) why did some cars not have a front wing?

Silverstone has changed massively in twenty years hasn't it.

I wonder if the 2010 cars could lap the Brands Hatch GP circuit in under a minute now? For reference Mansell did a 1.09 in his Williams Honda.

By 1982, most of the cars were running ground effect sidepods (although the ground rubbing sliding skirts which had been part of the sidepod system had been restricted for 1982). With so much downforce being generated with the car underbody and sidepods, it was often better to do away with the front wing. Wings are actually a relatively inefficient method of creating downforce as they create a fair amount of aerodynamic drag.
Whether a car ran with or without front wings was usually down to driver choice. In the infamous 1982 San Marino GP, one Ferrari ran with a front wing, the other one didn't.

Downforce generating sidepods were banned from 1983 onwards so front wings came back with a vengeance that year and have remained a very important feature of downforce generation ever since.

[spitfire-ian]

Eric Mc said:

Gaz. said:

The first Brands Hatch race (1982?) why did some cars not have a front wing?

Silverstone has changed massively in twenty years hasn't it.

I wonder if the 2010 cars could lap the Brands Hatch GP circuit in under a minute now? For reference Mansell did a 1.09 in his Williams Honda.

Whether a car ran with or without front wings was usually down to driver choice. In the infamous 1982 San Marino GP, one Ferrari ran with a front wing, the other one didn't.