RE: Russian Sports Car Maker Invests In Virgin F1
RE: Russian Sports Car Maker Invests In Virgin F1
Friday 12th November 2010

Russian Sports Car Maker Invests In Virgin F1

Marussia takes 'significant stake' in rookie F1 team



The Virgin Racing F1 team have sold a 'significant stake' to Russian sports car maker Marussia, securing the team's spot on the grid until 2014.

The team will be re-branded as Marussia Virgin Racing in 2011. "It's massive," said Virgin team boss John Booth. "The future was solid but this makes us secure for four years."

Branson was equally upbeat about the news. "Virgin is delighted to have secured a partner which shares our vision and spirit for challenging the establishment."

The involvement of Marussia - whose boss Nikolay Fomenko who is a former racer and presenter on the Russian version of Top Gear - has inevitably sparked speculation that a Russian driver will be dropped into one of the Marussia virgin seats for 2011.


After all, Virgin hasn't yet confirmed its drivers for next year, and Vitaly Petrov's future with Renault is uncertain.

Whatever the eventual driver line-up, Virgin will no doubt be hoping to put the bad memories of its debut season behind it - it started the 2010 season with a fuel tank that was too small to last an entire race, and has subsequently been dogged by reliability issues.

The other 2010 rookies, meanwhile, are also looking to improve on 2010 - Hispania Racing has secured new financial backing and is rumoured to be running a Williams gearbox next year, while Lotus has secured a deal to use Renault engines for 2011, along with a Red Bull gearbox and hydraulics.

Pics: Haja Rasambainarivo/Morio


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Streetrod

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6,480 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I dont see this going well

Insight

608 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Why aren't the car's all red with the Virgin logo? Yes I know Ferrari is red but these Virgin ones with their black and red look like an old pair of Richard Branson's pants. Probably just as smelly too.

Riggers

1,859 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Streetrod said:
I don't see this going well
Reminds me of the last time there was Russian involvement in Midland F1:



heck, the cars even looked similar. And that was with the remnants of Jordan - Manor Motorsport (AKA Virgin F1) don't even have that level of experience.

Having said all that I wish Marussia Virgin the best - the grid would be less interesting without these new teams.

NotNormal

2,418 posts

240 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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So will this end up going down the same route as TVR then whistle

mchammer89

3,127 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I'm not surprised that we've just had a Lada negative comments so far...

Riggers

1,859 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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mchammer89 said:
I'm not surprised that we've just had a Lada negative comments so far...
Fortunately nobody's been Russian to make bad puns though...

Fergie87

340 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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My first post wooo smile Hello everyone wavey I've been following this site for ages don't ask me why i never signed up i really don't know. That last post really made me laugh and so has the whole Ry_B thing that had me in tears lol.

groomi

9,330 posts

269 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Good to see all the new teams seemingly on a more secture financial footing and technically getting their acts together. They should all be closing the gap next season.

Well done to them all - I honestly didn't expect all three to still be racing at this point in the championship.

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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It's just begging for an F1 engine to be dropped in a Marussia now a la the Jiotto Caspita or Monteverdi Hai 650 F1 from the nineties.

Would be a whole new level of wonderful.

Granted emissions regulations would kill it as anything more than a concept but damn I want to see it!

gezkc

157 posts

237 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Reading the headline, for a second I was wondering if Nicolai Smolenski was planning to bring TVR to F1! wink

StevenJJ

541 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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If the Russians pour in the money and leave everything to Wirth and co. this team could move up the grid very quickly. If they increasingly want to run the show...

georgetuk

205 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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StevenJJ said:
If the Russians pour in the money and leave everything to Wirth and co. this team could move up the grid very quickly. If they increasingly want to run the show...
I can see what your saying but increasingly pouring money into F1 has left sponsors disillusioned so I can see some involvement.

But I can't see Richard Branson giving up much control to be honest he has wanted to be in F1 for a long time!

Anyone know what kind of sales the Malrussian lot have? Its a an expensive game F1 and seems strange for a lesser company to be involved.

RenesisEvo

3,821 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Insight said:
Why aren't the car's all red with the Virgin logo? Yes I know Ferrari is red but these Virgin ones with their black and red look like an old pair of Richard Branson's pants. Probably just as smelly too.
The entry was originally under Manor Grand Prix - indeed Virgin Racing is a trading name of the former. I imagine they wanted to retain some of Manor's traditional black colours. The Manor 'rose' appears on the inside of the front wing support.

skinny

5,269 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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branson doesn't have any control anyway, he just puts his name on the side of the car and gets pretty good exposure from it whilst not investing very much and trying to get others to pay the bills. (underneath that i believe is the same business model that genii employs with regard to bringing partners on board that contribute on a solid business level behind F1). sometimes he turns up to a race and smiles a lot.

i'm glad the booths have got this investment, they've managed to get through the difficult first year and hopefully can build on it and mix it with lotus (1 malaysia etc), STR, and even force india.

A Scotsman

1,001 posts

225 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Ah well. There goes the neighbourhood.

Very few joint ventures or other deals with the Russians tend to go well. It's a highly nationalistic country not averse to using its ever changing laws to its own benefit and nothing happens there without the tacit approval of the state. Tread carefully.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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yes

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

281 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Ma Russian Virgin...

Hmmmmmm.....scratchchin

russellwatson17

278 posts

214 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Riggers said:
mchammer89 said:
I'm not surprised that we've just had a Lada negative comments so far...
Fortunately nobody's been Russian to make bad puns though...
If people want to make puns then soviet...

Fire99

9,865 posts

255 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Can only be a good thing. 'The Artist Known as' Lotus appear to have a firm basis for next year and this looks like Virgin will have a far stronger footing which, all odds being equal, should make them more competitive for next year.

If HRT can pull a rabbit out of a hat and get some structure behind them, then we'll have a far more competitive 2nd half of the grid.

I'm not going to be Russian-ist.

jellison

12,803 posts

303 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Branson should just ps off out of F1.

He will NEVER put a penny in. Remember this team is MANOR not Virgin - this is just a branding exercise to supposedly bring in more case from other "sponsors" at NO cost to Branson. He will take any money - i.e.from this Russian lot. Yep it will end badly and is a total not want F1 needs.

No doubt Bernie will run them out the door when he has finally had enough of Branson. He spent less tan begger all at Brawn (apparently 1/4 Mill for all the publicity - it would have cost way more than that to fly him and flunkies to the GP's he attended).

Manor need this d*ck to move on.