Porsche gear shift

[Chris Sideways]

Just watching British Gt's and was wondering why don't they use a paddle shift?I've done a quick YouTube and all in car footage shows stick shifts.

[anonymous-user]

Because the roadcar hasnt got paddle shift.

[Ahonen]

Nothing to do with what the road car has or hasn't got.

Porsche simply didn't think it was worth it. The Hollinger has a beautiful shift so there's little point in simply adding cost to the car.

The drivers do enjoy a spot of paddleshift, it's true, but when you've worked with a system as troublesome as that fitted to the F430 Scud you long for a bit of simplicity...

[Chris Sideways]

As simple as that wow so why don't they fit them on the road car or at least enough so they could use it racing,maybe it doesn't make that much difference,whenever i see paddle shift it does look so much easier and faster,I know I would love it on my race car.

[Chris Sideways]

Ahonen you got your reply in while I was posting mine thanks.

[The Wookie]

Ahonen said:

The Hollinger has a beautiful shift so there's little point in simply adding cost to the car.

Really? From my experience (and as far as I'm aware it's a widespread one in the paddock) it is the worst part of the Cup Car. Requires a hard yank on upshifts, constantly baulks on downshifts if you're not banging it against the limiter with heel and toe, and (although I seemed to look after mine) had tendency to consume eye wateringly expensive internals or spontaneously combust with alarming regularity.

I always assumed that they weren't using a paddle shift in GT's because there isn't an alternative box or a paddle shfit system that's compatible with the Hollinger unit.

[flemke]

Ahonen said:

Nothing to do with what the road car has or hasn't got.

Porsche simply didn't think it was worth it. The Hollinger has a beautiful shift so there's little point in simply adding cost to the car.

When it's working well, yes. The most reliable thing about that 'box, however, is that it can be relied on to throw up a problem sooner than it should do.
For that reason, haven't Porsche gone from Hollinger to Xtrac?

[Joe Osborne]

The cup car is a lot different to the GT3 car, the GT3 has a smoother flat shift on the way up and it has an auto blip on the downshifts! Much easier than the Cup car to drive!

[The Wookie]

Joe Osborne said:

The cup car is a lot different to the GT3 car, the GT3 has a smoother flat shift on the way up and it has an auto blip on the downshifts! Much easier than the Cup car to drive!

Fair enough!

[Ahonen]

The Wookie said:

Ahonen said:

The Hollinger has a beautiful shift so there's little point in simply adding cost to the car.

Really? From my experience (and as far as I'm aware it's a widespread one in the paddock) it is the worst part of the Cup Car. Requires a hard yank on upshifts, constantly baulks on downshifts if you're not banging it against the limiter with heel and toe, and (although I seemed to look after mine) had tendency to consume eye wateringly expensive internals or spontaneously combust with alarming regularity.

I always assumed that they weren't using a paddle shift in GT's because there isn't an alternative box or a paddle shfit system that's compatible with the Hollinger unit.

The GT3R has a superb shift. At least that's what friends who have driven it tell me. Our GT2 RSR has the 'box from the RS Spyder (as all do from '08 on) and that can go up the gears with one finger on the stick.

Pretty much any sequential 'box can run with paddleshift. Fitting something like a Shiftec or Megaline system is easy as they're largely self contained and simply send a cut signal to the ECU.

Various Cup cars running in DSC use paddles, but I'm not sure whose they use - the trick is getting full access to the ECU for the cut signal.