Silly motorsports regs!

[300bhp/ton]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 22 February 2011 at 12:09

[onomatopoeia]

You are going to have to be way, way more specific than that - to start with the discipline and if you are talking about General Regulations (the blue book for MSA sanctioned events), event Supplementary Regulations or Championship Supplementary Regulations.

There's a four cylinder limit in road rallying, I don't know of one anywhere else.

The category definitions for roadgoing and modified in sprints and hills are laid down in the blue book, event organisers have no control over these.

If you would like to be specific about things I might be able to give some insight, or point you to someone that can.

[covboy]

Doesn’t matter how you word the reg’s somewhere along the line (even at the lowest level of Club motorsport) someone will push them to the limit and spoil it for everyone. Hence the need to try and supply " cover all" legislation.

[onomatopoeia]

Well, taking this part:

300bhp/ton said:

They are also written in a way that it is almost impossible to turn one vehicle type (the more competitive) into a modified class vehicle, it almost doesn't matter what you do, it'll always be classed as standard, even when heavily modified. While the less competitive vehicle types are heavily penalised if you look at them wrongly and almost any change, even silly tiny minor cosmetic ones, can force them to run in the modified vehicle classes.

and this one

300bhp/ton said:

The regs are also written, that while these cars must be road legal, you can only run modified suspension that is harmful to road use. Other suspension options exist that would allow equal competitive use but retain far better and safer road manners - these are actively prohibited. To me it just says these people have no real concept how the suspension works.
/rant

I'll say - regulations can be changed. Those in the blue book are written by a committee (for sprints&hills it's the sprint and hillclimb sub-committee of speed events committee, which has competitors, organisers and championship co-ordinators on it). They are responsive to suggestions if the regulations as written are not working, although changes have to be ratified by Motor Sports Council. I lobby one of the members of said committees frequently enough about this stuff - it might have been me going on about finding list 1a/1b tyres in 155R12 to fit my Hillman Imp that had some effect on the introduction of the pre-1976 exemption from that requirement in roadgoing

So, can you give specific examples of problems created for either / both of the sections of text I quoted? I'm quite happy to argue the toss or point you in an appropriate direction if required.