Max Mosley and John Humphries on Radio 4
Discussion
It was very interesting.
Another research article for Derek's book...
The thing is about Mosley, is you have to keep on reminding yourself, when listening to him, of what a complete t
t he was when in charge of the FIA.
If you don't, it would be very easy to get sucked into his belief that he has done nothing wrong.
I won't give anything away, but Humphries catches him out at one point and the back-pedalling is superb.
Another research article for Derek's book...
The thing is about Mosley, is you have to keep on reminding yourself, when listening to him, of what a complete t
t he was when in charge of the FIA.If you don't, it would be very easy to get sucked into his belief that he has done nothing wrong.
I won't give anything away, but Humphries catches him out at one point and the back-pedalling is superb.
A man in complete denial.
Amongst lots of other points, I guess he won't say what his budget is because based on the suggestions made in various places doing so might reveal the rather large payment he received from a certain Mr Ecclestone.
There is absolutely no repent for what he did, it was all the fault of the camera recording his seedy activities which he eagerly set up, paid for and took part in. He didn't tell his wife because she would ask him not to do it, and his regret is the affect it had on her. Great loyalty and a really strong marriage there then.
Amongst lots of other points, I guess he won't say what his budget is because based on the suggestions made in various places doing so might reveal the rather large payment he received from a certain Mr Ecclestone.
There is absolutely no repent for what he did, it was all the fault of the camera recording his seedy activities which he eagerly set up, paid for and took part in. He didn't tell his wife because she would ask him not to do it, and his regret is the affect it had on her. Great loyalty and a really strong marriage there then.
davepoth said:
The only reason this was bad was because of the Nazi stuff, and there was nothing overtly Nazi going on.
If you are serious, you are one of only 3 people in the world I have ever heard who believe that. The other two being the deluded MM and his mate Judge Eady. Quite how the overwhelming evidence could be so blatantly ignored is beyond me, and many others.
And it was hardly a seedy little affair, he had been at it for over 40 years, paying prostitutes so he could hit them for his own sexual gratification. That is a severe problem in my view, no matter how many cups of tea were drunk so that it was all very "civilised".
davepoth said:
So he had a rather seedy affair. He's not the only person who's done that. John Major was nobbing Edwina Currie while he was in power, we don't hold that against him, do we?
The only reason this was bad was because of the Nazi stuff, and there was nothing overtly Nazi going on.
Not that it matters, but in the interest of accuracy (this is PH after all!) Major had his thing with Currie long before he even became Tory leader.The only reason this was bad was because of the Nazi stuff, and there was nothing overtly Nazi going on.
I was with Mosley.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
CPDMotorsport said:
I was with Mosley.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
How naive you are.Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
Mosely appears delusional, in heavy denial, completely refusing to accpet any responsibility for any of the seedy, nasty and disastrous episodes in his life.
Of course we know that type of illness, for want of a better word, ran through his family, so it shouldn't be a surprise, but it is utterly right for a newspaper, even the NOTW, to expose this type of cancerous figure in our society.
DSM2 said:
CPDMotorsport said:
I was with Mosley.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
How naive you are.Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
Mosely appears delusional, in heavy denial, completely refusing to accpet any responsibility for any of the seedy, nasty and disastrous episodes in his life.
Of course we know that type of illness, for want of a better word, ran through his family, so it shouldn't be a surprise, but it is utterly right for a newspaper, even the NOTW, to expose this type of cancerous figure in our society.
To extend either of your PoVs to provide a template for freedom/control of the press is a bit of a reach, however...
skwdenyer said:
DSM2 said:
CPDMotorsport said:
I was with Mosley.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
How naive you are.Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
Mosely appears delusional, in heavy denial, completely refusing to accpet any responsibility for any of the seedy, nasty and disastrous episodes in his life.
Of course we know that type of illness, for want of a better word, ran through his family, so it shouldn't be a surprise, but it is utterly right for a newspaper, even the NOTW, to expose this type of cancerous figure in our society.
To extend either of your PoVs to provide a template for freedom/control of the press is a bit of a reach, however...
DSM2 said:
CPDMotorsport said:
I was with Mosley.
Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
How naive you are.Never liked him particularly but the News of the World have absolutely no right to film his private life.
I don't see why being in a public position means that people have a right to know your sex life? As he said the only betrayal was to his wife so if TNOTW was doing 'the right thing' they would have just told her and not the whole world.... but then again tabloid media and the scum of the earth so I wouldn't expect them to ever do the right thing.
Mosely appears delusional, in heavy denial, completely refusing to accpet any responsibility for any of the seedy, nasty and disastrous episodes in his life.
Of course we know that type of illness, for want of a better word, ran through his family, so it shouldn't be a surprise, but it is utterly right for a newspaper, even the NOTW, to expose this type of cancerous figure in our society.
I heard this late last year, and by coincidence caught the last part again last night. Came over as an intelligent chap, able to reason and argue his case well. I think he has a point in taking the tabloids on and he has the money and resources to match theirs. That's a good thing. He also had a concensus from the F1A behind him.
However, he was pretty much in denial that he did 'anything' wrong. He said that one of his sons who was just getting himself off drugs at the time the story broke went on to commit suicide, yet didn't concede that this just might have been a contributing factor. Also, his wife of fifty years had apparently forgiven him. What choice, exactly would she have had? Ah well, as long as he's happy eh?!
However, he was pretty much in denial that he did 'anything' wrong. He said that one of his sons who was just getting himself off drugs at the time the story broke went on to commit suicide, yet didn't concede that this just might have been a contributing factor. Also, his wife of fifty years had apparently forgiven him. What choice, exactly would she have had? Ah well, as long as he's happy eh?!
Chrisgr31 said:
I assume there was no hint as to where his money comes from?
He said that he had plenty of money thanks to his father. I wondered exactly where the family money came from as I already knew that some of the Mosley estates had been sold off years ago, so I assume that Oswald had invested whatever inheritance he received and it has passed down the Spanky.Where's Derek when you need him?
pacman1 said:
I heard this late last year, and by coincidence caught the last part again last night. Came over as an intelligent chap, able to reason and argue his case well. I think he has a point in taking the tabloids on and he has the money and resources to match theirs. That's a good thing. He also had a concensus from the F1A behind him.
However, he was pretty much in denial that he did 'anything' wrong. He said that one of his sons who was just getting himself off drugs at the time the story broke went on to commit suicide, yet didn't concede that this just might have been a contributing factor. Also, his wife of fifty years had apparently forgiven him. What choice, exactly would she have had? Ah well, as long as he's happy eh?!
Was he in denial though? I think he was quite up front about it. However, he was pretty much in denial that he did 'anything' wrong. He said that one of his sons who was just getting himself off drugs at the time the story broke went on to commit suicide, yet didn't concede that this just might have been a contributing factor. Also, his wife of fifty years had apparently forgiven him. What choice, exactly would she have had? Ah well, as long as he's happy eh?!
andyps said:
And it was hardly a seedy little affair, he had been at it for over 40 years, paying prostitutes so he could hit them for his own sexual gratification. That is a severe problem in my view, no matter how many cups of tea were drunk so that it was all very "civilised".
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