Hamilton denies he was groomed.
Discussion
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/16/lewis-...
Just thought I'd start it before somebody else does.
Just thought I'd start it before somebody else does.
davislove said:
no one can be groomed as such, just given opportunity, which he was, and did good things with it
Really?So no-one has ever improved by being coached and receiving the benefit of the experience of seasoned support staff and the best equipment? Hmmm.
You probably believe the he didn't let Trulli past the other year too.
Methinks he doth protest too much, as the saying goes.................
davislove said:
no one can be groomed as such, just given opportunity, which he was, and did good things with it
I disagree. Talent is not that rare. What is rocking horse droppings is support and development. Whilst you can't make a silk purse, the essence of proper individual coaching is improvement. In a sport I know, if you are picked at 17 yrs you tend to go on into the Premiership yet players of equal potential and ability struggle without such assistance and are left to wallow in National Leagues.Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
Derek Smith said:
I disagree. Talent is not that rare. What is rocking horse droppings is support and development. Whilst you can't make a silk purse, the essence of proper individual coaching is improvement. In a sport I know, if you are picked at 17 yrs you tend to go on into the Premiership yet players of equal potential and ability struggle without such assistance and are left to wallow in National Leagues.
Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
If that was true Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenals teams would all be made of players that came through their respective youth teams. Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
GreaseNipple said:
Derek Smith said:
I disagree. Talent is not that rare. What is rocking horse droppings is support and development. Whilst you can't make a silk purse, the essence of proper individual coaching is improvement. In a sport I know, if you are picked at 17 yrs you tend to go on into the Premiership yet players of equal potential and ability struggle without such assistance and are left to wallow in National Leagues.
Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
If that was true Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenals teams would all be made of players that came through their respective youth teams. Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
He was extremely well supported and developed (and if he didn't get any driver coaching on the way up, why not?) but by any measure, he was a lot less experienced than Alonso in 2007 so it was a pretty impressive display nonetheless.
Look at Alonso's 2005-2006 performances and look at his Ferrari performances last year in the second half of the year and there's no way you could conceive of a rookie putting one over on him.
I think Lewis would do well to do less media and keep his head down and focus on the racing - he looked distracted and unsure when interviewed by Lee Mckenzie on the weaving penalty and I think Vettel's success is starting to get to him a little....
Look at Alonso's 2005-2006 performances and look at his Ferrari performances last year in the second half of the year and there's no way you could conceive of a rookie putting one over on him.
I think Lewis would do well to do less media and keep his head down and focus on the racing - he looked distracted and unsure when interviewed by Lee Mckenzie on the weaving penalty and I think Vettel's success is starting to get to him a little....
http://mclaren.com/page/mclaren-driver-development...
The team’s considerable experience in driver development has shown that succeeding at the very highest level of motorsport is incredibly difficult – and that even the greatest of potential talents requires more than just financial backing in order to achieve the greatest success
As a result, the McLaren Driver Development Programme has not been created to merely fund careers in motorsport; it has been designed to offer year-by-year guidance, assistance and endorsement to help promising young racers – regardless of nationality – to climb the motorsport ladder.
The McLaren Driver Development Programme aims to provide young drivers with:
1. accurately-graded physical training and nutrition programmes
2. meaningful career information and contractual guidance
3. thorough and exacting assessments of skill and ability
4. media and PR improvement tools
5. the necessary funding to ensure career development
6. public endorsement from one of motorsport’s most well-established names
7. a reputation that will enable them to continue their careers with increased independence
The most notable success in this area has been Lewis Hamilton, whom McLaren helped develop from a 13-year-old kart racer into a Formula 1 world champion.
The team’s considerable experience in driver development has shown that succeeding at the very highest level of motorsport is incredibly difficult – and that even the greatest of potential talents requires more than just financial backing in order to achieve the greatest success
As a result, the McLaren Driver Development Programme has not been created to merely fund careers in motorsport; it has been designed to offer year-by-year guidance, assistance and endorsement to help promising young racers – regardless of nationality – to climb the motorsport ladder.
The McLaren Driver Development Programme aims to provide young drivers with:
1. accurately-graded physical training and nutrition programmes
2. meaningful career information and contractual guidance
3. thorough and exacting assessments of skill and ability
4. media and PR improvement tools
5. the necessary funding to ensure career development
6. public endorsement from one of motorsport’s most well-established names
7. a reputation that will enable them to continue their careers with increased independence
The most notable success in this area has been Lewis Hamilton, whom McLaren helped develop from a 13-year-old kart racer into a Formula 1 world champion.
BBS-LM said:
Well I think lewis was groomed, he was lucky to be sponsored by mclaren from his karting days, and then onto the rest his career. If that is not grooming someone I dont know what is.
'Lucky' ? Wow, there are some with blinkers on here on PH these days. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it... watch his form through the ranks: he's a special driver - full stop. The same goes for Vettel to some extent.GreaseNipple said:
Derek Smith said:
I disagree. Talent is not that rare. What is rocking horse droppings is support and development. Whilst you can't make a silk purse, the essence of proper individual coaching is improvement. In a sport I know, if you are picked at 17 yrs you tend to go on into the Premiership yet players of equal potential and ability struggle without such assistance and are left to wallow in National Leagues.
Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
If that was true Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenals teams would all be made of players that came through their respective youth teams. Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel: all world champions, all supported.
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