Dual carriageway or single carriageway?
Poll: Dual carriageway or single carriageway?
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Thanks for the responses so far.
This road comes off a roundabout and eventually joins the A31. There is another road in the opposite direction on the other side of the A31.
I wondered what people's perception of this road was since some drivers seem to take a 'racing line' through it, ignoring any lane markings, whereas others see it as a 2 lane road and overtake quite happily, obeying the rules of a dual carriageway.
The signing is unclear from the roundabout, it's just marked A31 in very faded and worn paint on the road. Once onto the road itself, there are white lines down the centre of the road, but they are far from clear, just like the A31 markings on the roundabout.
I've been overtaking cautiously there, but there are some drivers, such as the people who carve across it looking for an apex (at 40 mph) that regard the entire width of the road theirs to drive on where they wish whilst completely ignoring all others. I guess I just feel it should be much clearer than it is.
This road comes off a roundabout and eventually joins the A31. There is another road in the opposite direction on the other side of the A31.
I wondered what people's perception of this road was since some drivers seem to take a 'racing line' through it, ignoring any lane markings, whereas others see it as a 2 lane road and overtake quite happily, obeying the rules of a dual carriageway.
The signing is unclear from the roundabout, it's just marked A31 in very faded and worn paint on the road. Once onto the road itself, there are white lines down the centre of the road, but they are far from clear, just like the A31 markings on the roundabout.
I've been overtaking cautiously there, but there are some drivers, such as the people who carve across it looking for an apex (at 40 mph) that regard the entire width of the road theirs to drive on where they wish whilst completely ignoring all others. I guess I just feel it should be much clearer than it is.
Technically a dual carriageway, although that appears irrelevant and not actually what you're asking now, and if it's a lin or slip road, then not a DC.
No lane markings would suggest that it's a single lane so those people 'carving' are perfectly within the regs to do so I'd say. The van driver is a total arse unless he's broken down!
ETA, so now I see the lane markings are just worn away...still no reason not to apex the curve as long as you're not endangering anyone else.
No lane markings would suggest that it's a single lane so those people 'carving' are perfectly within the regs to do so I'd say. The van driver is a total arse unless he's broken down!
ETA, so now I see the lane markings are just worn away...still no reason not to apex the curve as long as you're not endangering anyone else.
Edited by Pothole on Wednesday 21st November 10:43
OK, so you're asking how many lanes it has, not whether it's a DC. This by the way is the difference between getting a speeding ticket and not.
The road is apparently here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=a31&hl=en&...
It has lane markings, and they're clearly worn out instead of being deliberately removed. It is a two lane road.
The road is apparently here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=a31&hl=en&...
It has lane markings, and they're clearly worn out instead of being deliberately removed. It is a two lane road.
trashbat said:
OK, so you're asking how many lanes it has, not whether it's a DC. This by the way is the difference between getting a speeding ticket and not.
I found this out the hard way some time ago. 
trashbat said:
The road is apparently here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=a31&hl=en&...
It has lane markings, and they're clearly worn out instead of being deliberately removed. It is a two lane road.
That's my feeling on it all, but it seems far from clear to many motorists.It has lane markings, and they're clearly worn out instead of being deliberately removed. It is a two lane road.
JonnyFive said:
Knew it'd be that road.. My local knowledge is champion.
Single Carriageway.
Nah; it's the on-slip to a DC (and, to the best of my knowledge, that makes it part of the DC) and, absent the one-way signs needed to make a two-lane SC unidirectional, I reckon it's a DC.Single Carriageway.
Ask yourself this: there's an NSL repeater there. What's the speed limit on this particular bit of road?
CommanderJameson said:
Nah; it's the on-slip to a DC (and, to the best of my knowledge, that makes it part of the DC) and, absent the one-way signs needed to make a two-lane SC unidirectional, I reckon it's a DC.
I think that's probably the detail behind my assumption. However, if someone has never driven down that stretch before, they don't know that there's a two lane road, proper DC, at the end so they don't know that it's supposed to be two lanes.I do wonder if the road signs and markings are just too vague and only the council can really confirm this.
bennyboysvuk said:
CommanderJameson said:
Nah; it's the on-slip to a DC (and, to the best of my knowledge, that makes it part of the DC) and, absent the one-way signs needed to make a two-lane SC unidirectional, I reckon it's a DC.
I think that's probably the detail behind my assumption. However, if someone has never driven down that stretch before, they don't know that there's a two lane road, proper DC, at the end so they don't know that it's supposed to be two lanes.I do wonder if the road signs and markings are just too vague and only the council can really confirm this.
Pothole said:
So you're actually labouring under the misconception that the broken line down the middle means you have to stay in lane? Or?
No, I believe you're free to move between lanes, unless the lane you're moving to is already occupied, although I believe in keeping left unless overtaking or approaching a junction where I need another lane.bennyboysvuk said:
Pothole said:
So you're actually labouring under the misconception that the broken line down the middle means you have to stay in lane? Or?
No, I believe you're free to move between lanes, unless the lane you're moving to is already occupied, although I believe in keeping left unless overtaking or approaching a junction where I need another lane.Call me dim, but I can't see why it matters.
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