Three lane motorways
Discussion
nordboy said:
No, just because there's roadworks, it doesn't change the designation of the road. It's still a motorway.
Unless stated (signs saying all vehicles for example) or directed to do so, HGV's can't use lane 3.
It's still designated a motorway but HGVs aren't banned from the outside lane of motorways, they're banned from the outside lane of a three or more laned carriageway. So I'm not convinced you've answered the question.Unless stated (signs saying all vehicles for example) or directed to do so, HGV's can't use lane 3.
Edited by nordboy on Tuesday 28th December 16:07
How many lanes does it have? Two or three?
Edited by trashbat on Tuesday 28th December 16:23
nordboy said:
No, just because there's roadworks, it doesn't change the designation of the road. It's still a motorway.
Unless stated (signs saying all vehicles for example) or directed to do so HGV's can't use lane 3.
on 4 lanes you can use lanes 1 2 and 3 for HGV but not lane 4. Unless stated (signs saying all vehicles for example) or directed to do so HGV's can't use lane 3.
Edited by nordboy on Tuesday 28th December 16:07
On a three lane that has had the inside lane closed you will be restricted to lane 2.
And if they shut lanes 1 and 2?
And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
trashbat said:
And if they shut lanes 1 and 2?
And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
the big issue is that not all motorway lanes are the same width...And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
Motorway travellers will be familiar with the 'narrow lanes' signs through roadwork zones, and these can be quite intimidating at times. They can be as narrow as about 2.2 m, but most motorways have lanes at 2.8-3 m in width, with the outside lane perhaps 2.6 m wide.
So they will limit the outside lane. if its three lanes and they close lane 1... lane 3 is still lane 3 and the laws for lane 3 still apply.
I agree about width and I agree that in practice they will restrict what can be in each lane via signage. But I think in the absence of that signage, it's OK.
In fact while writing this I have just looked this up and it refers to open lanes.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1982/1163/regu...
In fact while writing this I have just looked this up and it refers to open lanes.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1982/1163/regu...
the law said:
no vehicle to which this Regulation applies shall be driven, or moved, or stop or remain at rest on the right hand or off side lane of a length of carriageway which has three or more traffic lanes at any place where all the lanes are open for use by traffic proceeding in the same direction
Edited by trashbat on Tuesday 28th December 17:20
trashbat said:
It's still designated a motorway but HGVs aren't banned from the outside lane of motorways, they're banned from the outside lane of a three or more laned carriageway. So I'm not convinced you've answered the question.
How many lanes does it have? Two or three?
OP says 3 lane in question so that's what I was answering?How many lanes does it have? Two or three?
Edited by trashbat on Tuesday 28th December 16:23
trashbat said:
And if they shut lanes 1 and 2?
And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
If they are closing lanes 1 and 2 then you are being directed to use lane 3, making it legal. And what if it was one lane closed on a two lane motorway but the nearly-completed roadworks were widening to three?
I think you can only count the open lanes, not what it was or will be, meaning you can drive it in. However I am not an HGV driver.
Also, as another poster suggests, there are often specific restrictions or exemptions on yellow roadworks signage.
Not sure that I agree with much that has been written above.
Lorries cannot use the outside lane if there are 3 (or 4) lanes. If you close off the innermost lane (1) then it's only 2 lanes at that stage. I see no reason why lorries shouldn't then use the outside of the 2 lanes, though many lorry drivers may well not do so, particularly if it's narrower.
Lorries cannot use the outside lane if there are 3 (or 4) lanes. If you close off the innermost lane (1) then it's only 2 lanes at that stage. I see no reason why lorries shouldn't then use the outside of the 2 lanes, though many lorry drivers may well not do so, particularly if it's narrower.
Vipers said:
Glenn63 said:
markymarkthree said:
If lane one is shut on a 3 lane motorway HGVs can use 2 & 3 as long as no width restrictions have been put in place.
This man is correct. 
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deeen said:
Vipers said:
Glenn63 said:
markymarkthree said:
If lane one is shut on a 3 lane motorway HGVs can use 2 & 3 as long as no width restrictions have been put in place.
This man is correct. This post was sponsored by 2 pints of Shere Drop, 1 glass of Rabelo and some port left over from Christmas.
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