HELP! endura -- 1600 zetec
HELP! endura -- 1600 zetec
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theheff

Original Poster:

31 posts

167 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Hi guys, although i have done a fair few mods in my time ive never done an engine transplant before and i was wondering if you guys can help me

i have a mk1 ford ka3 with a 1300 endura engine in it, its a pile of s**t frankly, although ive managed to extract 79hp out of it frankly im ready to give up the ghost and trade for a better heart

the things im worried about however are the engine mounts and control moduals my car currently has an analog dash no abs, no tach, a real ghetto piece compared to most
an info on the subject would be a great help, its also the only car i have access to and i dont have a driveway, so if anyone can help me in that respect also it would be greatly helpful

Max M4X WW

5,027 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Best place to ask about this is probably a KA forum.

I suspect the easiest engine to put in would be a 1.6/1.7 from a Puma smile

skene

2,783 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Don't know about Kas but I know that on the mk5 fiesta it is quite a large task to change from a 1.3 endura engine to a zetec model. Plus if you're changing to a zetec engine you may as well get a 1.7.

ohtari

805 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Don't be confusing the 1600 zetec with the 1600 sigma as used in caterhams.

The 1.7 in the puma is of the same engine design as the 1.6 sigma, inlet front/exhaust rear. The zetec engines are the inverse.

ETA
You'll basically need an entire donor car to complete the job, as you'll need the ecu and wiring loom on top of the engine. It'll be cheaper to buy a mot failure or crashed example and do the transfer that way.

It must be asked though, is it really worth it? It would be cheaper (insurance especially) to just buy another car!

Edited by ohtari on Wednesday 7th November 18:59

Gooly

977 posts

177 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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OP I was in a similar situation having had a 1.3 mk5 fiesta; pretty much everything is different, to the extent that there is no real reason to stick with the Zetec SE range; with the amount of work it takes to swap in a 1.6 or a 1.7 Zetec SE in place of an Endura E you may as well swap in something more powerful like a 150 duratec. Either put big money and effort into it or upgrade to a 1.25 mk5 fiesta like I did; a 1.6 or a 1.7 (much recommended) is then a straight swap with only the LH engine mount needing to be changed.

RE the electrics, post '99 fiestas/pumas had digital dashes, pre '99 had analouge.

vx220

2,725 posts

263 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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There was a company who made an engine mount to put the iron-block zetec into a ka (1.6-1.8-2.0l)
Can't remember the name, track-something?
Zetec se (alloy block with inlet at front) is going to be a lot more work

Wiring for either probably equally as hard

Really did want a 2.0 sprtka

vx220

2,725 posts

263 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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WHY DOES MY EXPERIA WANT TO DOUBLE POST ALL THE TIME!?!?!?

Edited by vx220 on Friday 9th November 07:42

Disco You

3,747 posts

209 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Just buy another car.

James Dean

1,373 posts

194 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Do this.


davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Disco You said:
Just buy another car.
This, plainly.

The easiest engine swap would probably be the 1.6 engine found in the SportKa; it's the same general engine design with a new head IIRC, and since it's a standard Ka engine bay the parts should be available to fit it without too much modifying. However at the end of all that effort and expense (which will have included buying a SportKa to get the engine), you'll still have a sub two litre FWD small hatchback. So make any engine swap worthwhile.

The moral of this story is therefore: Go big, or go home.



It was difficult to find a decent picture of this project, and I couldn't find any picture that showed the twin turbos...

FlashBastd

313 posts

219 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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2.0 Zetec-E should be relatively straightforward, even think you can keep the Endura gearbox

theheff

Original Poster:

31 posts

167 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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thank you all for you help,

i think ill go with the genral idea here of, rid'o it
think ill get myself a nice focus and do some work to that, will upload pics when the car is bought and through the work detailed
again thanks for you help very much appreciated

The_Heff

JackP1

1,270 posts

191 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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James Dean said:
Do this.

This, and very well executed.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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James Dean said:
Do this.

Yes. This is what you should do.