Acoma Mini Comtesse - Any Help?
Acoma Mini Comtesse - Any Help?
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lukeharding

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3,511 posts

115 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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I've just bought this Acoma Mini Comtesse at auction, it doesn't run (probably a good thing!) though I would like to restore it. If anyone knows anything about these I'd much appreciate it. It's a funny and very ugly little car but I just couldn't leave it sitting there. Also does anyone know what sort of spark plugs these use and what sort of fuel - whether two stroke or four stroke?

Thanks


Sillyhatday

441 posts

125 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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I know nothing. I'd just like to say good luck to you sir.

Where do I get one? wobble

lukeharding

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3,511 posts

115 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Theres a larger version on eBay at the moment, though I kinda want to buy that one too! haha

Ransoman

884 posts

116 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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I am pretty sure they are 2 stroke. The engine is based on a scooter engine so you shouldn't struggle for parts.

There is a "jason drives" video on youtube about this if you fancy a laugh.

lukeharding

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3,511 posts

115 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Thanks, I'll have a look. All I've been able to find so far is that they're terribly slow and terribly dangerous so it should be fun when I get it on the road!

Ambleton

7,210 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Worst "I got drunk one night and woke up in the morning to find I won this on ebay" thread ever!

good luck - what could possibly go wrong!!

hehe

lukeharding

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Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Ambleton said:
Worst "I got drunk one night and woke up in the morning to find I won this on ebay" thread ever!

good luck - what could possibly go wrong!!

hehe


Haha nope I was completely awake and sober and at a physical auction. It was only cheap and I quite looking at it, though most people who've seen it just want to watch me get in it because I'm tall.

rallycross

13,704 posts

263 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Brilliant - crazy purchase!

Peanut Gallery

2,680 posts

136 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Brilliant! - crazy!

Post up some pics of the engine / carbs / leads etc, let us armchair mechanics have a gander! (and try deduce possible problems)

lukeharding

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115 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Here are some photos, hope they help.














406highlander

182 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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According to these articles I found on Jalopnik and Barnfinds:
http://jalopnik.com/what-it-s-like-to-drive-a-tiny...
http://barnfinds.com/smaller-than-a-mini-1975-acom...

... the engine is a 49cc single-cylinder 2-stroke unit capable of outputting a blazing 3 horsepower. The engine is mated to a 2-speed automatic gearbox.

The car was designed for people who have no license to drive any other type of vehicle (voiture sans permis, literally "car without a license"). The law was intended to allow people with no drivers licenses get on to mopeds, but creative designers wanted people to be driving cars instead, hence the tiddly engine and strange number of wheels (5, in this case - the driven front wheel, the two rear wheels, and a pair of casters to stop it falling over during cornering, Reliant Robin-style).

You might not get to where you're going very quickly, but on the bright side - you'll only need to buy a quarter of the number of spark plugs most people do...

lukeharding

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Tuesday 11th April 2017
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406highlander said:
According to these articles I found on Jalopnik and Barnfinds:
http://jalopnik.com/what-it-s-like-to-drive-a-tiny...
http://barnfinds.com/smaller-than-a-mini-1975-acom...

... the engine is a 49cc single-cylinder 2-stroke unit capable of outputting a blazing 3 horsepower. The engine is mated to a 2-speed automatic gearbox.

The car was designed for people who have no license to drive any other type of vehicle (voiture sans permis, literally "car without a license"). The law was intended to allow people with no drivers licenses get on to mopeds, but creative designers wanted people to be driving cars instead, hence the tiddly engine and strange number of wheels (5, in this case - the driven front wheel, the two rear wheels, and a pair of casters to stop it falling over during cornering, Reliant Robin-style).

You might not get to where you're going very quickly, but on the bright side - you'll only need to buy a quarter of the number of spark plugs most people do...
Thanks this is great! those 3hp are going to feel like even less I'm sure!

LordGrover

34,110 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Here's hoping it's up the right way now...



Love it. Congrats OP.

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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A mad purchase and one I salute entirely! The guys and girls at Practical Classics might well know more about these things, especially Sam Glover (although as it isn't Eastern Bloc or similar, it might be out of his range)

Keep us updated, what a thing!!

lukeharding

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Tuesday 11th April 2017
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LeoZwalf said:
A mad purchase and one I salute entirely! The guys and girls at Practical Classics might well know more about these things, especially Sam Glover (although as it isn't Eastern Bloc or similar, it might be out of his range)

Keep us updated, what a thing!!
Haha thanks I will

406highlander

182 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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The engine is probably the same Motobécane 49cc 2-stroke unit as found on Motobécane's own Mobylette range of mopeds.

The good news is that Motobécane built more than 14 million Mobylettes between 1949 and 1997, so chances are than if the little 2-stroke is toast, you'll be able to lay your hands on a working example without parting with too much cash. It should also be fairly easy to find a guide on stripping down the engine and building it back up again, or mechanics who've seen them / worked on them previously.

The bad news is that with that same engine, the Mobylette would only do a maximum speed of 40 MPH (depending on which version you bought). And the bike weighed less than your car does...

lukeharding

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Tuesday 11th April 2017
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406highlander said:
The engine is probably the same Motobécane 49cc 2-stroke unit as found on Motobécane's own Mobylette range of mopeds.

The good news is that Motobécane built more than 14 million Mobylettes between 1949 and 1997, so chances are than if the little 2-stroke is toast, you'll be able to lay your hands on a working example without parting with too much cash. It should also be fairly easy to find a guide on stripping down the engine and building it back up again, or mechanics who've seen them / worked on them previously.

The bad news is that with that same engine, the Mobylette would only do a maximum speed of 40 MPH (depending on which version you bought). And the bike weighed less than your car does...
ah perfect thank you, to be honest I wasn't expecting to get half of 40mph out of it! hoping to get it running at least and see how well it runs and then set about restoring it.

LordGrover

34,110 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Whoa! Does yours have the trick doors too?


lukeharding

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Tuesday 11th April 2017
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LordGrover said:
Whoa! Does yours have the trick doors too?

yeah one opens normally and the other is gullwing with very bad hinges and both flex like mad!

406highlander

182 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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406highlander said:
The engine is probably the same Motobécane 49cc 2-stroke unit as found on Motobécane's own Mobylette range of mopeds.
Further info: your car is the later Type 73, so the engine would have been either the Saxonette type 50 AMALX (47cc) or the Motobecane type 93D (50cc) engine. You may even have a 4-speed gearbox.

This link I found mentions these two engine choices, and also gives some kind of explanation for the barmy doors!

http://smallcarsclub.com/catalog/acoma/acoma-mini-...