Saab 9000 #4
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Mark-s3jdd

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115 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Greetings all!

It has to be said that my recent motoring karma has not been good. This could be traced back to the fateful decision I made to sell this,

2012-06-24144452 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

I loved this car so much - I have never kept a car for as long as I kept this (very nearly 5 Years........)

I sold it because the gearbox was failing and the dreaded rust had started to kick in........Now I realise that I should have got all of these things sorted because from this I got the OG 9-3 Aero which was a nice car but this came to a sticky end when the front wheel came off. Next came the Big red bus ('00 9-5 Aero estate) - which although it looked great, I never, ever bonded with. When the 9-5 started to become a little naughty, Mrs B called time on 'bangernomics' and demanded that we get a sensible and suitable 'modern' car to comfortably seat our now very-much growing 3 children. This led to us buying our XC90 - which to be fair does the job beautifully. This then led me in to selling the 9-5 and then using Mrs B's 9-3 vert. Mrs B as soon as she got her much-wanted XC90, she knew that I wouldn't keep the vert and that she knew I would go 9000 shopping! Of course, as I am not the type to let people down, I started my search.........

What I wanted was a either an Aero or a decent Anniversary. This turned into a long search, mainly because since I got my last 9000 the number of 9000s has all but disappeared!
Eventually, a friend mentioned how he had been to P&P car sales and that they had a real beauty. He had intended to buy this example but then decided I should get it instead. But when I rang P&P they were sorry to report that it had sold. But they suggested I get in contact with DCA Saab as they thought that they might have a 'few' Anniversaries.... So I did - they said that they did indeed have 3 awaiting attention. Daniel at DCA promised he would go up to their yard and see what they were like and pull out the best one. This turned out to be a '97 2.3 FPT auto in Scarab green. Here are the initial pictures he sent me of the said car;

2.3FPT Anni by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

2.3FPT Anni by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

2.3FPT Anni by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

2.3FPT Anni by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Suitably interested, I asked for more information. They told me that it had full S/H (mainly Main agents and the rest Independent specialists - 19 stamps in all!) and that it had done 123k.

So with that I organised to go view during this past week - however as is often the case with family life plans didn't go to plan. I was then faced with the prospect of cadging lifts and using public transport for another half term. With this I took the brave (maybe stupid?) decision to buy the car 'blind' and get it delivered.........scary stuff!

So the 9000 was listed on Uship and eventually I agreed to have it delivered on Saturday. So when it arrived looking like this;

20171028_145210 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171028_145242 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171028_145526 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171028_145710 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171029_114848 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171029_114853 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

The spoiler was particuarly manky........

20171028_145535 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

But generally the car is sound and pretty much rust free - but boy is it ever grimy and dirty!

So fast forward to today I was set about giving her possibly the most thorough detail she had have in many a year - this was the regime;

Washed using G3 bodyshop prep shampoo
Clay mitt (G3)
Washed again with Megs Gold class shampoo
Megs Ultimate compound
Scratches treated with G3 scratch paste (loads have now gone!)
3 coats of Autoglym Super resin polish
2 coats of Autoglym HD wax
Interior - thorough hoovering
Leather cleaned and conditoned (Meguiars mirror bright leather treatment)
Door shuts cleaned - more needed
Tyres dressed using Megs Endurance

After around 4 hours this is how she looked;

20171029_162550 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171029_162413 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

So what are the priorities?

1. Tyres - they are not good. Looking at quite what to do in terms wheel options. I have always dreamt of set of Exposed nut Superaeros. If not a better set of Anni alloys - in any case a set of Uniroyal Rainsports are the dream

2. Replace number plates - these are ordered

3. Replace front and rear badges

4. Get the code for the head unit - this is being addressed this week too. [u]Now done and working, sort of.......
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5. Get the central locking working - module is needed. [u]Sourced![/u]

6. Get better rear spoiler in Scarab

There will be more.............

So I have given the old girl a bath and fitted the new number plates;


before;

9000 Anniversary by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171029_162550 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

and after;

20171219_144526 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171219_151050 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171219_144510 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

It is true what they say about the little things, they really do make a big difference!

Next (cosmetically) is to deal with the badges front and rear (I am led to believe these might be coming to me via a man with a long white beard)......

Worried about the rear badge on the decor panel - anyone have any experience of replacing these without causing damage to the decor panel?

Moving onto the engine bay. As you can see from the photos below she was sat for around two years before being recommissioned by DCA Saab before being sold to me. Anyone got any ideas how to get rid of the 'mottled' effect on the metals?

20171219_133334 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171219_133338 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20171219_133341 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

As soon as I got another 9000 I had my heart set on a set of Aero seats - but the sand ones seemed to have disappeared, until I found these listed on the bay for £10! So I got them, obviously! All electrics worked, so all that was needed was copious amounts of Gliptone cleaner and conditioner;

So having ordered these;

20180303_144321 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

I went about cleaning and feeding the seats - starting with the passenger front first - this is what it looked like at first;

20180303_100811 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_100834 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Intensive cleaner doing it's thing;

20180303_101201 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

All cleaned and dried looking rather better;

20180303_102525 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_102539 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Suffice to say it was FILTHY!

20180303_101146 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr


20180303_103746 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Encouraged by the results, I moved on to the very grotty driver seat.......before.......

20180303_103829 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_103824 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

During;

20180303_105312 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_105316 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

As you can see the intensive cleaner went straight through the dodgy matched dye!

After;

20180303_110352 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_110404 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Passenger seat now fed with the conditioner;

20180303_112411 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_112420 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

On to the driver's seat - much better but more applications of conditioner needed;

20180303_113328 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

All in all - I am delighted - the rear seats all look great!

20180303_115616 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr


20180303_121840 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_143632 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Rear headrests

20180303_121900 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180303_121851 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Not bad for a tenner!

Good 'ole Gliptone!

And then cut to this weekend;

20180324_121612 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

And then all of a sudden I had achieved this;

20180324_161626 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180324_161647 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Feeling very pleased with myself - As we know I am not the most practical of men, which would probably explain why I didn't get on so well with rear seats.........

I cannot believe the difference the seats make - I had forgotten how wonderful these Aero armchairs are!

Anyway - a quick bath for the old girl to celebrate!

20180324_161612 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Pretty pleased with how she is now starting to look;

20180215_141849 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180215_141900 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

20180215_141916 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

So remaining plans for the old girl are;

Thermostat, coolant flush and replacement
New header tank + silicone hoses
ATF flush and replace
Replace aeriel mast
Source + fit front armrest
Wheels - refurb or replace?
Tyres

Already have the following to be fitted;
Good central locking ECU (Mine is a bit moody)
Replace passenger front c/l solenoid
Replace cracked indicator
Fit CD changer

Ryko

84 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Fantastic, this is what PistonHeads is all about!

Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Why thank you very much!

Cambs_Stuart

3,521 posts

112 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Looks like this could be another great thread. I'll be following with interest.
And yes, there are better saab wheels.
Good luck to you.

Straff99

137 posts

200 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Nice car, OP. This video shows how to clean the aluminium under the bonnet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRSoRkM8GcM&t=...

Mark-s3jdd

Original Poster:

110 posts

115 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Looks like this could be another great thread. I'll be following with interest.
And yes, there are better saab wheels.
Good luck to you.
Cheers!

I would really love some exposed nut Super Aeros for her - but boy have they increased in value. You used to be able to pick up a reasonable set for around £200 - more like £3-400 now. Sadly not in a position to spend that kind of money.......sadly!

Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Straff99 said:
Nice car, OP. This video shows how to clean the aluminium under the bonnet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRSoRkM8GcM&t=...
Cheers! Many thanks for the kind words and thank you for the link - I am always so nervous cleaning the engine/engine bay

e30m3Mark

17,477 posts

201 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Nice work.

Always fancied a 900 myself.

Quite a transformation down to elbow grease.

Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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e30m3Mark said:
Nice work.

Always fancied a 900 myself.

Quite a transformation down to elbow grease.
900s were the reason I got bitten by the Saab bug - I couldn't find one at the time and a specialist mentioned to me about 9000s and how good they were - and he isn't wrong. Here I am on my 4th!

Many thanks for you kind comments! It has come up well - still plenty to do. But We're getting there!


Nutty9000

1,531 posts

128 months

Wednesday 28th March 2018
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What a beauty! Looks immaculate.

Mark-s3jdd

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Wednesday 28th March 2018
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Nutty9000 said:
What a beauty! Looks immaculate.
I wish!

No - it has a few bits of bodywork that need to be addressed;

1. There is 2 spots of rot at the foot of both A-posts - so probably more below. DCA replaced the windscreen before MOT'ing it and selling to me. They 'said' that there wasn't anything significant once the old screen came out..........hmmmm I hope that is right!

2. Small dent on the bonnet

3. V. small dent above the the driver's rear wheel arch

MOT history suggests that the back end is sound - but I am keen to get it in the air and check to see if everything is ok there - this is becoming the killer of many a 9000 these days.


Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Received this through post (very exciting - I only get bills as a rule!)

20180405_141027 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

So inside there was;

20180405_172827 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

As you can see - most needed;

20180405_172815 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr
Many, many, many thanks go to Paul @ Kippen!

Just need to get it fitted..........

Edited by Mark-s3jdd on Friday 6th April 19:53

Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Got another couple of very little but very satisfying jobs done on the old girl yesterday;

1. Fitted the 'turbo' grill badge;

20180411_160936 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

2. Took out, cleaned, oiled and re-fitted the noisy interior temp sensor - those of you with either a 9K or an OG 9-3 will know just how noisy these get when they get clogged up with dust;

20180411_160440 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Oftentimes it is the case that the little jobs are very rewarding!

Cookeh

247 posts

116 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Following this with interest, always liked the 9000s. Looking forward to your progress on the aluminium - I'm hoping to attack mine with a wire brush on a rotary drill soon, with a bit of luck it will make a good difference!

Mark-s3jdd

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115 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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More jobs started today.

The engine bay is more than a bit of a mess - another inheritance from it's slumber in the DCA yard........So it had looked like this;

20171219_133334 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

After some cleaning it has started to look a little better;

20180413_150937 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Particularly pleased with the delivery pipe;

20180413_150944 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Obviously more to do...........

So I went to fit the replacement indicator unit;

20180413_143706 by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

However when I went to fit the 'new to me' unit - the lens came away from the housing.........some glue beckons...........

So short term plans;

1. Get the 'good' spoiler fitted
2. Thermostat - combined with coolant flush
3. Silicone hoses - cannot decide which route to take with these - Black maptun ones from Neos or the Ali express ones.........
4. Fit the CD changer I have - anyone got a C-bus Clarion lead or a suitable 'cage' to secure it?

Longer term plans;
1. Wheels - 16" Exposed nut Super Aeros are the dream!
2. Tyres............
3. Have the Air con looked at/re-gas
4. Front armrest


I'm sure there is more......

Mark-s3jdd

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110 posts

115 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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So I have been out shoppin'!

I have purchased a set of these;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-For-1991-1998-SAAB-9...

£21 delivered! Others on here and mates of mine have fitted these and they have been all good. Notice also they come with a 5yr guarantee, so really it they had to be purchased. They had been listed for more like £50 delivered, which isn't too bad. I had considered the Maptun black set that Neo Brothers have in stock, but they have 5 hoses in the pack and I would have needed to get the clamps too - so that would have taken us to nearer the £70 mark.

Also I have ordered a genuine Saab thermostat. So the plan is to go and see Lewis Turner (he of the 9000 register in the SOC) who is a mate of mine and flush through the coolant system, change the stat, fit the hoses and then refill the coolant with the GM pink stuff which I have in the garage.

I am also thinking about getting a new expansion tank as mine is really rather horrible!

In stock awaiting fitting;

1. Passenger front locking actuator
2. Central Locking module
3. Rear spoiler in good nick
4. Replacement passenger front indicator
5. Oil and filter change
6. New rear badge for the decor panel
7. Fit rear Aero seats (Mother in-law is going to make me a cushion for the back seat)

Wants
1. C-bus lead and 'cage' for fitting the CD changer I have for her
2. Exposed nut Super Aero alloys
3. Air con re-gas - investigation of Air-con system to determine faults?
4. New Expansion tank


A new issue that has just reared it's head - the dreaded ABS light has come on............faulty sensor or mucky sensor.....? Who knows........just plain annoying!


Edited by Mark-s3jdd on Friday 20th April 15:41

Cookeh

247 posts

116 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Are those hoses relatively 'proven'? I know you stated you have acquaintances who have them, but do any of them have experience with a couple years and some serious mileage?

Seen a set from the same seller for my 850 T5, at much cheaper prices than the 'known' solutions, which makes them very tempting indeed.

Mark-s3jdd

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Friday 20th April 2018
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I'm working on the premise that they come with a 5 yr warranty & given I have no idea how long the current hoses have been, they've got to be worth a go at £21. But I think the main reason for giving them a go is through others using them without issue. Of course, having said all that, I'll probably be on here in a few months saying how awful they are! Hahaha! Time will tell!

Edited by Mark-s3jdd on Friday 20th April 18:46

Cookeh

247 posts

116 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Precisely why I want to get mine changed. 5 year warranty and cheap prices do make it tempting, but don't want to undergo all the work of swapping the pipes for the to fail shortly after haha.

I'll keep a close eye on this thread and see how you get on.

Mark-s3jdd

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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Fair do's. I will, of course, update you on how they work out!