Hate SUV's? Chances are you'll really hate this
Discussion
First and foremost--before the inevitable negativity pours forth, I shall have to clarify that I consider myself to be a huge fan of cars, and I suppose now, a fan of huge cars.
When I was in the UK, I had a few interesting cars--MR2 turbo, Westfield, Chimaera, classic range rover, a 66 land rover amongst others, and since being in the UAE for nearly 8 years I've had a wrangler, a 964, a 7 series, a merc s500, a v8 vx90 and most recently, a cayenne turbo. Hidden amongst these was a Mercury Mountaineer, 7 seats, the best ac I've ever had in a vehicle and was a great vehicle for the practicality. Therein lie the issues. With visitors becoming more frequent, and growing, and me with a couple of minor health issues with herniated discs and a leg that has its share of nerve damage, I decided to get myself a vehicle to cope with all eventualities. Work frequently dictates the need to get off road (albeit sensibly off road, not part of the winching brigade) and often requires me to carry a large amount of building materials, I've frequently got my dog Hamish in tow (not literally) so the choice of vehicle was defined by the above- room for 4 or more passengers, in comfort, a boot large enough to take luggage or various construction kit, 4wd to at least attempt getting near site, and tall... To make access as pain-free as possible. All on a limited budget...and with the aim of being reliable if it's not asking too much, as porsche air suspension is the stuff of nightmares over here
The search started off with pajeros/shogun. Leggy, not much performance, rear seats small.
Land cruiser, impossible for the budget unless buying something with crazy mileage.
Little point listing various other options so cut an already long story short, I found, had inspected and subsequently purchased a 10 year old Nissan Armada.
128000km with a fully stamped history, 8 seats, leather, ac for each of the 3 rows of seats, bose stereo, Bluetooth voice activated phone, sat nav (amazingly, woefully outdated of course). The rearmost seats fold electrically, the boot lid is electric too, and it has a fold down dvd player and wireless headphones.
As a real throwback to the golden age of crap quality audio, it also has a cassette player, and thankfully, it has a reversing camera.
It's far from the smallest of vehicle, but its more agile than the Volvo, it's as comfy as the merc, suprisingly quiet on the move.
Downsides... Its a 5.6v8 propelling a far from lightweight vehicle around, and I'm currently averaging 15mpg, but at least doing my bit for global warming.
All of this for the princely sum of 5k.
In short, I bloody love it-easy to get in, easy to drive, suprsingly rapid, and the 21 speed bumps I encounter each morning are either nicely absorbed by the suspension, or are gradually being flattened by the weight of the thing.
A golf, for scale.
When I was in the UK, I had a few interesting cars--MR2 turbo, Westfield, Chimaera, classic range rover, a 66 land rover amongst others, and since being in the UAE for nearly 8 years I've had a wrangler, a 964, a 7 series, a merc s500, a v8 vx90 and most recently, a cayenne turbo. Hidden amongst these was a Mercury Mountaineer, 7 seats, the best ac I've ever had in a vehicle and was a great vehicle for the practicality. Therein lie the issues. With visitors becoming more frequent, and growing, and me with a couple of minor health issues with herniated discs and a leg that has its share of nerve damage, I decided to get myself a vehicle to cope with all eventualities. Work frequently dictates the need to get off road (albeit sensibly off road, not part of the winching brigade) and often requires me to carry a large amount of building materials, I've frequently got my dog Hamish in tow (not literally) so the choice of vehicle was defined by the above- room for 4 or more passengers, in comfort, a boot large enough to take luggage or various construction kit, 4wd to at least attempt getting near site, and tall... To make access as pain-free as possible. All on a limited budget...and with the aim of being reliable if it's not asking too much, as porsche air suspension is the stuff of nightmares over here
The search started off with pajeros/shogun. Leggy, not much performance, rear seats small.
Land cruiser, impossible for the budget unless buying something with crazy mileage.
Little point listing various other options so cut an already long story short, I found, had inspected and subsequently purchased a 10 year old Nissan Armada.
128000km with a fully stamped history, 8 seats, leather, ac for each of the 3 rows of seats, bose stereo, Bluetooth voice activated phone, sat nav (amazingly, woefully outdated of course). The rearmost seats fold electrically, the boot lid is electric too, and it has a fold down dvd player and wireless headphones.
As a real throwback to the golden age of crap quality audio, it also has a cassette player, and thankfully, it has a reversing camera.
It's far from the smallest of vehicle, but its more agile than the Volvo, it's as comfy as the merc, suprisingly quiet on the move.
Downsides... Its a 5.6v8 propelling a far from lightweight vehicle around, and I'm currently averaging 15mpg, but at least doing my bit for global warming.
All of this for the princely sum of 5k.
In short, I bloody love it-easy to get in, easy to drive, suprsingly rapid, and the 21 speed bumps I encounter each morning are either nicely absorbed by the suspension, or are gradually being flattened by the weight of the thing.
A golf, for scale.
Well, I like it but then I rattle around in a Merc GL. And even with the 3-litre V6 diesel I only average about 23mpg so yours isn't too bad.
I also have electrically folding rear (3rd row) seats which makes the boot rather cavernous.
Looks like you have sensible car parking spaces there. I can still get mine into a standard UK space AND get out without touching the car next to mine (despite me being a fat knacker) but it is tight, and still doesn't stop the uninformed telling me how it's too big for the UK.
Truck stop parking... Not because I needed the width but because the roof box took me over the height allowable in the conventional car park:
My friend has a Nissan Pathfinder. I thought that was the "big" Nissan. Haven't heard of yours before.
I also have electrically folding rear (3rd row) seats which makes the boot rather cavernous.
Looks like you have sensible car parking spaces there. I can still get mine into a standard UK space AND get out without touching the car next to mine (despite me being a fat knacker) but it is tight, and still doesn't stop the uninformed telling me how it's too big for the UK.
Truck stop parking... Not because I needed the width but because the roof box took me over the height allowable in the conventional car park:
My friend has a Nissan Pathfinder. I thought that was the "big" Nissan. Haven't heard of yours before.
It is expensive and even more so if I wanted one with a petrol engine... which I do, of course but that would be so impractical really. But since I gave up the sports cars, mainly because I just wasn't using them enough, I can at least justify this one.
It's not the current model. It's a late 2011MY.
It is good on slippery surfaces but I am limited in my tyre choice by those 21" wheels. I don't like non-OEM wheels and Merc/AMG didn't make any 20" wheels that look as nice as mine. That said, I may just go with a set if they crop up on eBay, so that I can put some Cooper AT tyres on. That would make it genuinely useful for me. And the higher sidewalls would improve the ride.
With centre and rear diff lockers available, the very odd occasion where it gets too slippery for the road-based tyres can be overcome without drama. And the air suspension allows for quite an increase in ride height to step-over the odd area of limited ground clearance.
So while it can "overcome" difficulties, I wouldn't seek out troublesome tracks and trails mainly because, although it can go *some* places the more conventional 4x4 brigade go, it may not be as robust and if I break it, it will involve a large number of £££.
It's not the current model. It's a late 2011MY.
It is good on slippery surfaces but I am limited in my tyre choice by those 21" wheels. I don't like non-OEM wheels and Merc/AMG didn't make any 20" wheels that look as nice as mine. That said, I may just go with a set if they crop up on eBay, so that I can put some Cooper AT tyres on. That would make it genuinely useful for me. And the higher sidewalls would improve the ride.
With centre and rear diff lockers available, the very odd occasion where it gets too slippery for the road-based tyres can be overcome without drama. And the air suspension allows for quite an increase in ride height to step-over the odd area of limited ground clearance.
So while it can "overcome" difficulties, I wouldn't seek out troublesome tracks and trails mainly because, although it can go *some* places the more conventional 4x4 brigade go, it may not be as robust and if I break it, it will involve a large number of £££.
Absolutely love the Big Ol' American SUV's With A Vee 8 Mowdor.
In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
rayyan171 said:
Absolutely love the Big Ol' American SUV's With A Vee 8 Mowdor.
In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
I love them too and the new Lincoln Navigator looks absolutely lovely inside!In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
An XL Tahoe is a Suburban, although in the GMC Yukon and Cadillac Escalade the XL is called XL
We've just done 900 miles in a Suburban LT in Florida. I really miss that car.
If I lived in the US I'd do everything I could to have a full size SUV. in the UK though I hate them!
Ordered a Tahoe but the 20" longer Suburban turned up. Glad it did too because that extra boot length was very useful.
Just the right amount of American wobble in the suspension too. I didn't see many corners in Florida so handling didn't matter.
If I lived in the US I'd do everything I could to have a full size SUV. in the UK though I hate them!
Ordered a Tahoe but the 20" longer Suburban turned up. Glad it did too because that extra boot length was very useful.
Just the right amount of American wobble in the suspension too. I didn't see many corners in Florida so handling didn't matter.
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
ReaperCushions said:
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
Like the toyota tundra’s too but just generic trucks with huge lift kits look epic out here and the noises some of them make are incredible....
Quite taken with their saloon’s/sedan’s too which are way more interesting than our offerings in the UK, the new honda accord looks great as does the toyota camry when fully specced up.
ReaperCushions said:
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
What "they" say about my car being too big for UK car parks is certainly right about that.
Impressive beast. I would love to take a look inside. Mine has decent-enough 3rd row seats - I could sit in them quite comfortably but with them "up" the boot space is quite limited. I bet that's not the case for the Escalade.
Watchman said:
ReaperCushions said:
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
What "they" say about my car being too big for UK car parks is certainly right about that.
Impressive beast. I would love to take a look inside. Mine has decent-enough 3rd row seats - I could sit in them quite comfortably but with them "up" the boot space is quite limited. I bet that's not the case for the Escalade.
Jimmy Recard said:
rayyan171 said:
Absolutely love the Big Ol' American SUV's With A Vee 8 Mowdor.
In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
I love them too and the new Lincoln Navigator looks absolutely lovely inside!In New York, loved how getting an Uber XL would result in a Infiniti QX60 with a 3.5 V6. American only car which was very luxurious for its price. We also had some GL 350 diesels, which surprised me, as it was America. Chevrolet Tahoe's were also common, the XL variants with the big boot were very appealing cars which drove so well and gave a great soundtrack. We finished off our trip with a long drive back to JFK from Manhattan with a brand new Cadillac Escalade, with its 6.2L, was one of the best cars I have had a ride in. It certainly beats out a Range Rover in terms of comfort, was extremely comfortable and certainly lived up to its price of $86K. With these being optioned up to $100k, I imagine they would be better than the Range Rover. Certainly in NYC, outside all the corporate headquarters there were either escalades or Maybachs, no Range Rovers in sight.
If these were in the UK with a good diesel, they would sell in the bucket loads. They probably wouldn't fit in our parking spaces, or our streets, but Americans simply know how to make good SUV's.
We are biased however
An XL Tahoe is a Suburban, although in the GMC Yukon and Cadillac Escalade the XL is called XL
rayyan171 said:
Watchman said:
ReaperCushions said:
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
What "they" say about my car being too big for UK car parks is certainly right about that.
Impressive beast. I would love to take a look inside. Mine has decent-enough 3rd row seats - I could sit in them quite comfortably but with them "up" the boot space is quite limited. I bet that's not the case for the Escalade.
Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
Dusty964 said:
rayyan171 said:
Watchman said:
ReaperCushions said:
Watchman said:
Which one of those American SUVs is the longest? I recall pulling up next to one (can't remember which one) at some traffic lights and being amazed that it was at least a foot longer than my GL.
I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
Typically it’s the longer versions of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade platform. Knows as the suburban or XL models for the Yukon/Escalade.I love that they challenge some Brits' sensibilities.
A friend has a Yukon XL Denali with the 6.2 V8... tremendous thing but my god it’s long!
The Infiniti QX80 is based on the same platform at the OPs. Essentially a trim level higher disguised as a brand upgrade, but epic all the same.
Love it OP.
What "they" say about my car being too big for UK car parks is certainly right about that.
Impressive beast. I would love to take a look inside. Mine has decent-enough 3rd row seats - I could sit in them quite comfortably but with them "up" the boot space is quite limited. I bet that's not the case for the Escalade.
Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
Using that as an excuse to post ours here
Dusty964 said:
Mine measures in at 5276, and like the Escalade can be had with the captains chairs (2 armchairs) in the second row, although mine is the bench so 8 seats. Im pretty sure most of the big SUV's do- Escalade, Yukon, Arcadia.........Im 6 foot 3 and fit in the back row pretty easily. With winter approaching, we shall be using it to sleep in when we go camping- practical as you could want!
Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
If you get opportunity to photograph it next to an SUV that we UK'ers are more familiar with, I'd love to see. In your original pics, it doesn't look that long but if it's actually longer than my GL it must be huge. Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
Also, any interior pics?
rayyan171 said:
Astonishing how you can fit in the 3rd row, no chance in our X5. Only SUV's we have found in the UK to fit actual people in the 3rd row are the XC90 and the GL, the X5 really is a tight squeeze. Compromise it is, but performance is what is focused on in that.
Using that as an excuse to post ours here
Love that all the SUV owners are posting their steeds here. Seems like therapy for the general hatred normally directed at them. Using that as an excuse to post ours here
MORE please chaps 
Watchman said:
Dusty964 said:
Mine measures in at 5276, and like the Escalade can be had with the captains chairs (2 armchairs) in the second row, although mine is the bench so 8 seats. Im pretty sure most of the big SUV's do- Escalade, Yukon, Arcadia.........Im 6 foot 3 and fit in the back row pretty easily. With winter approaching, we shall be using it to sleep in when we go camping- practical as you could want!
Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
If you get opportunity to photograph it next to an SUV that we UK'ers are more familiar with, I'd love to see. In your original pics, it doesn't look that long but if it's actually longer than my GL it must be huge. Despite the size, it really is easy to drive- great visibility all round, stupidly high driving position, and a reversing camera, granted, spaces over here are made for things this size, but its much easier round a multi storey car park than my old XC90.
My only regret is not buying one sooner, and about the only thing i would change if i could would be a tiptronic system like the cayenne had, mainly so you have engine braking.
Its also suprisingly rapid- tests show 0-60 in 6.8, but lets face facts, no one bought one for the traffic light grand prix. Its plenty fast enough for most situations, and sitting at 120kph shows bang on 2000 rpm, so its pretty quiet.
Heading off road at the weekend, so will be interesting to see how it gets on- the cayenne was pretty good on its road biased tyres, be nice to compare the 2.
Also, any interior pics?
rayyan171 said:
Astonishing how you can fit in the 3rd row, no chance in our X5. Only SUV's we have found in the UK to fit actual people in the 3rd row are the XC90 and the GL, the X5 really is a tight squeeze. Compromise it is, but performance is what is focused on in that.
Using that as an excuse to post ours here
Love that all the SUV owners are posting their steeds here. Seems like therapy for the general hatred normally directed at them. Using that as an excuse to post ours here
MORE please chaps 1. RWD
2. 4 seats
3. Lightweight construction
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