Tesla vs Range Rover Sport
Discussion
I thought i would do a readers car of my current daily's. Mainly to compare the future against the very current but also very cynical plug in Hybrid. I know neither are very PH but as the EV vs ICE comes up on here so often thought it could be interesting.
Here is my Tesla Model S 70d that has been mine for 3.5 years. My father also has a 90d that I have been borrowing for longer journeys were in later years I have got annoyed with my car.
I have been pretty vocal on here about the various plus and minus points of Tesla's on here so I won't go into to much detail. The main issues have been frustration with fluctuations in range for temperature and weather, charging restricting route and speed on longer journeys and some pretty poor build quality.
After a particularly horrendous journey back in January I had, had enough and ordered my self a Range Rover Sport P400e with the plan of having my cake and eating it. The general plan was to run it as an EV day to day doing the commute, shop runs etc but be able to just drive normally for business trips and holidays. Due to a change in circumstances my wife needs to do much more mileage taking my son to specialist nursery so it was decided she would have the Tesla and get rid of her Golf R. This is what the Tesla is brilliant for dirt cheap to run, comfy and quiet for journeys that are s
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Here is the latest RRS.
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As far as spec goes i was quite set on how I wanted the car to be as since having the Tesla it has become clear that my son is severely Autistic with various other issues. My wife and I decided we didn't want this to affect us going places and doing things with him. This played quite a big part deciding on the RRS over other cars like the Cayenne that would have been more up my street with the way it drives. The doors being quite low allowing for my son to see out properly were particularly attractive as he loves cars and I loved being able to see out of my fathers Range Rovers when I was young so hoped he would like it. The full glass roof and cream interior I hoped would make the car feel more relaxing for him and us on long journeys. Added TVs in the back as well for when all else fails there is always Moana!!
I have only had the car a couple of weeks so hard to draw any conclusions just yet but so far pretty good. Have been managing to go to work and back on one charge which is 22 miles at mostly 50-60 which was the plan although I am concerned about how this will go when it gets colder. In terms of performance compared to the Tesla is obviously pretty rubbish especially in EV only mode, but is surprisingly quick once rolling with the 400 combined bhp from the 2 litre turbo and battery it gets up to 100 without any hassle making overtaking easy.
It has done one long journey at the weekend which was a nice revelation not having to worry about charging or having to ask my in laws if I can plug in once there which was always embarrassing. I did Surrey to North Norfolk in 3.5 hours on the way back which is an hour faster than I ever did it in my Tesla the only down side was just under 30mpg and having to go to one of these funny petrol pumps to hand them money for range
Although 500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging. These combustion engines might have there strong points 
Like performance handling is not great compared to the Tesla but is to be expected it hangs on pretty well for such a big thing though. It kind of soaks up the road keeping you very isolated but then you realise you are doing some quite big speeds down twisty roads, it doesn't encourage fast driving but copes well if you want to.
Interior on both cars is nice. The RRS to me though is fantastic inside I think it just looks great and feels great.
Not sure if there is anything else to add if anyone wants to know anything about either car fire away.
Here is my Tesla Model S 70d that has been mine for 3.5 years. My father also has a 90d that I have been borrowing for longer journeys were in later years I have got annoyed with my car.
I have been pretty vocal on here about the various plus and minus points of Tesla's on here so I won't go into to much detail. The main issues have been frustration with fluctuations in range for temperature and weather, charging restricting route and speed on longer journeys and some pretty poor build quality.
After a particularly horrendous journey back in January I had, had enough and ordered my self a Range Rover Sport P400e with the plan of having my cake and eating it. The general plan was to run it as an EV day to day doing the commute, shop runs etc but be able to just drive normally for business trips and holidays. Due to a change in circumstances my wife needs to do much more mileage taking my son to specialist nursery so it was decided she would have the Tesla and get rid of her Golf R. This is what the Tesla is brilliant for dirt cheap to run, comfy and quiet for journeys that are s
t. Here is the latest RRS.
[url]|https://thumbsnap.com/ysJ4PVPd[/url]As far as spec goes i was quite set on how I wanted the car to be as since having the Tesla it has become clear that my son is severely Autistic with various other issues. My wife and I decided we didn't want this to affect us going places and doing things with him. This played quite a big part deciding on the RRS over other cars like the Cayenne that would have been more up my street with the way it drives. The doors being quite low allowing for my son to see out properly were particularly attractive as he loves cars and I loved being able to see out of my fathers Range Rovers when I was young so hoped he would like it. The full glass roof and cream interior I hoped would make the car feel more relaxing for him and us on long journeys. Added TVs in the back as well for when all else fails there is always Moana!!
I have only had the car a couple of weeks so hard to draw any conclusions just yet but so far pretty good. Have been managing to go to work and back on one charge which is 22 miles at mostly 50-60 which was the plan although I am concerned about how this will go when it gets colder. In terms of performance compared to the Tesla is obviously pretty rubbish especially in EV only mode, but is surprisingly quick once rolling with the 400 combined bhp from the 2 litre turbo and battery it gets up to 100 without any hassle making overtaking easy.
It has done one long journey at the weekend which was a nice revelation not having to worry about charging or having to ask my in laws if I can plug in once there which was always embarrassing. I did Surrey to North Norfolk in 3.5 hours on the way back which is an hour faster than I ever did it in my Tesla the only down side was just under 30mpg and having to go to one of these funny petrol pumps to hand them money for range
Although 500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging. These combustion engines might have there strong points Like performance handling is not great compared to the Tesla but is to be expected it hangs on pretty well for such a big thing though. It kind of soaks up the road keeping you very isolated but then you realise you are doing some quite big speeds down twisty roads, it doesn't encourage fast driving but copes well if you want to.
Interior on both cars is nice. The RRS to me though is fantastic inside I think it just looks great and feels great.
Not sure if there is anything else to add if anyone wants to know anything about either car fire away.
Your RR is lovely! I hope you son is getting on ok
interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
aponting389 said:
Your RR is lovely! I hope you son is getting on ok
interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
From my point of view if there were more chargers as well I would pay something similar as for the performance it would work out quite cheap. Especially if still charged at home for all the local stuff. interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
I do around 25,000 miles a year so you can see how 45-60 min charging currently works out as quite a lot of time for me looking at car parks which after a while has worn thin. But for many it's a non issue which is why there are so many happy Tesla owners out there who will never go back to ICE.
ntiz said:
aponting389 said:
Your RR is lovely! I hope you son is getting on ok
interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
From my point of view if there were more chargers as well I would pay something similar as for the performance it would work out quite cheap. Especially if still charged at home for all the local stuff. interesting point.... "500 miles range in under 5 minutes is pretty impressive charging." Makes me wonder, hypothetically, that if this "recharge" cost you say £100.. how many EV drivers would pay to fill up instantly anywhere? I guess that depends on why you bought the EV in first place i.e. for running costs, being green, noise etc etc.
I do around 25,000 miles a year so you can see how 45-60 min charging currently works out as quite a lot of time for me looking at car parks which after a while has worn thin. But for many it's a non issue which is why there are so many happy Tesla owners out there who will never go back to ICE.
Thought I would do a little up date.
The Range Rover has just ticked over 8,000 miles and I’m delighted to say for the first time ever I am still really happy with it. Nothing has fallen off in any way shape or form. Which I have to admit I was a little worried about, after some of the horror stories.
It has been all over the place a little bit. North Wales, Devon, Switzerland, Cornwall. Which it has done brilliantly just eats miles in comfort. My son loves being in the back so much that we managed to do Switzerland in a day instead of the 2 it took in the Tesla.
What I was most impressed with however was towing a trailer with 4 industrial welders, 3 big men and boot full of tools. Didn’t seem to make a difference to how the car pulled. I was expecting it to struggle with such a small engine.
Bad bits. mpg is not great on long runs have seen low 20s. Boot could be bigger bit annoying the boot is raised for the battery. Most annoying though is that who ever designed the boot should be shot! What idiot thought let’s put a big slant down at the back of the boot that creates a nice V shape. So that when you accelerate your shopping falls into it, when you open the boot it all comes crashing out into your feet. Having to crouch down to catch your 24 beers is bloody stressful!
The Range Rover has just ticked over 8,000 miles and I’m delighted to say for the first time ever I am still really happy with it. Nothing has fallen off in any way shape or form. Which I have to admit I was a little worried about, after some of the horror stories.
It has been all over the place a little bit. North Wales, Devon, Switzerland, Cornwall. Which it has done brilliantly just eats miles in comfort. My son loves being in the back so much that we managed to do Switzerland in a day instead of the 2 it took in the Tesla.
What I was most impressed with however was towing a trailer with 4 industrial welders, 3 big men and boot full of tools. Didn’t seem to make a difference to how the car pulled. I was expecting it to struggle with such a small engine.
Bad bits. mpg is not great on long runs have seen low 20s. Boot could be bigger bit annoying the boot is raised for the battery. Most annoying though is that who ever designed the boot should be shot! What idiot thought let’s put a big slant down at the back of the boot that creates a nice V shape. So that when you accelerate your shopping falls into it, when you open the boot it all comes crashing out into your feet. Having to crouch down to catch your 24 beers is bloody stressful!
berlintaxi said:
Looks lovely, quick question,how does the towbar system work, is it electrically deployed or bolted on? Got a filthy diesel version which I am looking to change next year and wondering whether to go for the hybrid version.
Land Rover tell you that you can only have there permanent bolted on version that can’t be taken off at all. Which is total bks took mine to good tow bar fitter, had a removable type fitted. I don’t tow very much so I had the standard panel kept it’s just 2 screws to remove so not a big deal for me. The guys at the tow bar fitter said you can order a proper removable panel from Land Rover though if using it more regularly.Only caution I would give is that it can’t tow as much as the normal diesels. Not sure how much less but something to ask.
Was a bit weird doing a short trip dragging a tractor to my factory in full electric mode.
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