Final day 2008 Cayenne S and first day 2022 Cayenne GTS
Final day 2008 Cayenne S and first day 2022 Cayenne GTS
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RDMcG

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235 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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My faithful Cayenne S had almost 300,000 km on it from new, and I decided to move on the a newer model. It happened this week:

Here are the first and very last pictures of the old car

First day




Final day





This car was ordered WITHOUT:

Nav system
Sun roof
Extended leather
Fancy radio
Bigger wheels
Sport chrono
Any interior or exterior trim upgrades


It had been dealer serviced from new. Over the years had:

-camshaft lifters replaced
-some exhaust components replaces
-new starter
-new power steering
-new discs and pads
-three windshields from very long hauls


RDMcG

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Yet, it had never let me down despite a tough life.


Towing:

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Dog transport:










Winter





Desert back trails






RDMcG

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The new GTS luckily was delivered to port in Emden just after the departure of the fateful ship that sank. Given all the problems this days with supply chain, the original production date was October 2021 but slipped to Feb 2022, delivered in Canada April 2022 without the Burmeistedr amplifier , (supply chain of course) ,but only a could of weeks before it was ready to go.

The spec lacks any of the driver aids such as night vision assist, HUD etc but does have 18 way seats , towbar, upgraded interior, Baumeister sound system etc, and with the standard Porsche communication package there is a lot more that can go wrong.

Compared to the 390bhp of the old car this one is 453 bhp with 457 lb-ft of torque at 18oo rpm. Performance is notably better.





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RDMcG

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it is of course a lot quicker and had superb roadholding, but I do not feel it has a the tank-like solidity of the old car. The impenetrable nest of Porsche electronic menus and all of the on-line stuff is of course new since the day of the old car, but in my view the added complexity does not mean added pleasure. Porsche needs to hire some Apple engineers to sort this stuff out ( so do many others).

The rear deck ( dog quarters is notably shallower and some styling genius made the angle of the door much more extreme for no added value ..just styling nonsense. The dog gave it two paws down.

Macron

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194 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Love your plate smile

RDMcG

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Macron said:
Love your plate smile
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Just one letter addition to Cayenne. I was crossing the US border a while ago in it and the border guard said " I can see you are in law enforcement". He saw the Cayenine plate and the grille behind the back seat.

Geekman

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174 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Quite an upgrade, congratulations.

Regarding the old car, you mentioned various repairs, but did not say anything about air suspension. Being an S model, I assumed it automatically comes with air suspension from the factory, or am I wrong? If so, I'd have expected at least a compressor and strut change by that mileage, but maybe the system is more robust than I thought?

RDMcG

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Geekman said:
Quite an upgrade, congratulations.

Regarding the old car, you mentioned various repairs, but did not say anything about air suspension. Being an S model, I assumed it automatically comes with air suspension from the factory, or am I wrong? If so, I'd have expected at least a compressor and strut change by that mileage, but maybe the system is more robust than I thought?
No air suspension. This was about the minimum spec to get the V8. It was originally my company car and of course there was a price limit on what I could spend on it. When I left the company a year later I bought it out of lease for a ridiculously small sum.
I knew I would be towing, did not need any of the fancy stuff. The engine was a great unit , and the transmission was unbreakable.

Chromegrill

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114 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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I'm sure I've seen that five dial dashboard layout before.

Oh yes, here we go, in a cathedral in Leipzig. Yes, the restoration was part funded by Porsche so naturally they got a hand in the design.



Explanation

RDMcG

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Chromegrill said:
I'm sure I've seen that five dial dashboard layout before.

Oh yes, here we go, in a cathedral in Leipzig. Yes, the restoration was part funded by Porsche so naturally they got a hand in the design.



Explanation
Looks about as easy to navigate as the current Porsche interfacesmile

Geekman

2,907 posts

174 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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RDMcG said:
Geekman said:
Quite an upgrade, congratulations.

Regarding the old car, you mentioned various repairs, but did not say anything about air suspension. Being an S model, I assumed it automatically comes with air suspension from the factory, or am I wrong? If so, I'd have expected at least a compressor and strut change by that mileage, but maybe the system is more robust than I thought?
No air suspension. This was about the minimum spec to get the V8. It was originally my company car and of course there was a price limit on what I could spend on it. When I left the company a year later I bought it out of lease for a ridiculously small sum.
I knew I would be towing, did not need any of the fancy stuff. The engine was a great unit , and the transmission was unbreakable.
I never knew you could get the S models without air suspension. I really like the idea of a basic spec one like yours, they're very hard to find where I am though.

RDMcG

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Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Geekman said:
I never knew you could get the S models without air suspension. I really like the idea of a basic spec one like yours, they're very hard to find where I am though.
Was long before shortages and it was what fit the budget at the time - complete stripper spec!

RDMcG

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Tuesday 17th May 2022
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One thing I have concluded is that this vehicle will not last as long as the old one.

There is too much technical complexity now, too much to go wrong, and the inevitable obsolescence of the software. Also the inevitable rise of EVs will make the big V8s undesirable. Fair enough, but a couple more kicks of the cat will be good.