2014 Volvo XC70 High Mileage Project
2014 Volvo XC70 High Mileage Project
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Chris-omxi1

Original Poster:

30 posts

123 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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What The Deuces

2,780 posts

40 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Watching with interest.

RicksAlfas

14,090 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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As I was reading it, I thought the only thing I would change on the interior is the colour of the steering wheel. A few lines further down and there was a black steering wheel!

I know it's personal opinion but I would leave the interior as it is now. It really complements the exterior colour.

agent006

12,058 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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I have the full beige interior on my 2013 XC70 and I really like it. Takes some work keeping clean, especially the beige rubber floor mats. I think the black would be OK with a sunroof but I find dark interiors really, well, dark.
Agreed on the gradual cheapening of these towards the end of the model. I think 2013/early 2014 is the pick of the bunch. I've got a decent spec on mine, with keyless entry and adaptive cruise etc. It's missing a sunroof and the premium audio though, which is a shame.

The gearbox likely needs the adaptations reset. There's a reset and then a specific sequence of driving to do in order to get it to fully relearn the shifts.
I made the mistake of changing the gearbox fluid on mine a few months ago, and only now after having the reset done is it shifting properly again. There's also likely to be a software update available for the gearbox. Not all independents can do the updates as they need to pay for the full VIDA subscription but it's worth asking.

Kinky

39,877 posts

285 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Slightly O/T but a guy has posted 5 videos (so far) of a 320k miles XC90 he got for £800.

https://www.youtube.com/@itsjoel/videos

If I had the time I'd try something similar

RicksAlfas

14,090 posts

260 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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There's a lot of gearbox chat here too:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It's a shame Volvo can't sort their gearboxes. I've got a V60CC and the only disappointing part is the dozy gearbox.

Bonefish Blues

32,463 posts

239 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
There's a lot of gearbox chat here too:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It's a shame Volvo can't sort their gearboxes. I've got a V60CC and the only disappointing part is the dozy gearbox.
It's not the gearboxes, they're perfectly fine in dozens of other car models - Aisin makes/made millions of them.

It's the lack of Volvo specifying an ATF change schedule, as simple as that. If changed on a 60K schedule they will last the life of the car. I've even had a main dealer tell me it is not a service item!

RicksAlfas

14,090 posts

260 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Bonefish Blues said:
It's not the gearboxes, they're perfectly fine in dozens of other car models - Aisin makes/made millions of them.

It's the lack of Volvo specifying an ATF change schedule, as simple as that. If changed on a 60K schedule they will last the life of the car. I've even had a main dealer tell me it is not a service item!
I'm on 17,000 miles.
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It's the communication between the engine and gearbox that's the issue on mine. It's fine for wafting but if you need a down change in a hurry it's not great.

Bonefish Blues

32,463 posts

239 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
Bonefish Blues said:
It's not the gearboxes, they're perfectly fine in dozens of other car models - Aisin makes/made millions of them.

It's the lack of Volvo specifying an ATF change schedule, as simple as that. If changed on a 60K schedule they will last the life of the car. I've even had a main dealer tell me it is not a service item!
I'm on 17,000 miles.
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It's the communication between the engine and gearbox that's the issue on mine. It's fine for wafting but if you need a down change in a hurry it's not great.
Ah, iswym!

BikeSausage

574 posts

84 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Will you be moving onto V90 CCs as they get older? I never got to try an XC70 which is a shame. They always came across as quietly competent rather than showy which is why I now have a couple of V90 CCs (instead of SUVs) in a couple of different places - just like their predecessor they’re vast, efficient, comfortable, luxurious and good-looking workhorses.

I’m guessing that my 8-speed Alison box is a development of the version in the XC70? If so, I quite like it’s calm approach to life and the lack of a sharp sports mode. There’s really no need for such a thing in a car like this. biggrin

Bonefish Blues

32,463 posts

239 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Yes to the '90 if possible, but we'll get some more miles out of the '70 first.

BikeSausage

574 posts

84 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Bonefish Blues said:
Yes to the '90 if possible, but we'll get some more miles out of the '70 first.
I’m sure they’ll last you quite a while.

Bonefish Blues

32,463 posts

239 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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BikeSausage said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Yes to the '90 if possible, but we'll get some more miles out of the '70 first.
I’m sure they’ll last you quite a while.
Most miles go on the Panda 4x4 now. The XC70 comes out for longer journeys, holidays etc.

Edited by Bonefish Blues on Friday 15th September 12:47

the-norseman

14,430 posts

187 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Excellent another Volvo thread to follow!

I see you have owned D5 and D4, you not tempted to get a remap on the D4 to bring it up to D5 power?

Accelebrate

5,418 posts

231 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Lovely car - I really like that brown. If I was buying again I'd probably hold out for one in that colour.

How much of the suspension is still original?

Stedman

7,331 posts

208 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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In!

surveyor

18,393 posts

200 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Lovely colour.

I liked mine, but became nervous after reading too many horror stories and discovered the ULEZ status was a bigger pain than I expected. Good luck with yours!


agent006

12,058 posts

280 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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surveyor said:
ULEZ
That's my main concern with ours. I've just sunk 8 grand into a non ulez compliant car. Will wait and see what values do but I can't help feeling I've made a duff choice here.

Accelebrate

5,418 posts

231 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Chris In York said:
I'm unsure about the suspension, so really need to take some time reading through all the invoices for work done on the car previously. From a quick skim when I bought it, I could see that a track rod end was replaced at the start of the year and could see that when I replaced the drop links. Given it's mileage, I would expect bits would have been replaced, but that could have been 100k miles ago and thus need replacing again anyway.

I've really enjoyed your thread and have followed since the start.
It’s possibly not a given even at that mileage, apart from the trailing arm bushes which had been done at least once before I think all of my suspension was original at 170k and nothing was snapped or leaking. Having owned so many I’m sure you know how they should feel, but even a few months later I’m still impressed by how less baggy mine is on new shocks and springs.

And thanks, glad you’ve enjoyed it smile

agent006 said:
That's my main concern with ours. I've just sunk 8 grand into a non ulez compliant car. Will wait and see what values do but I can't help feeling I've made a duff choice here.
I wouldn’t stress too much. I’d guess there’s a large proportion of the XC70s target market who don’t live anywhere near a ULEZ equivalent. They’ll probably be some of the last people to transition away from a diesel estate car too.

I’m always slightly surprised by how much of a premium (percentage wise) a P3 XC70 commands over a P3 V70.

chris1roll

1,798 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Lovely car.

I see someone has already linked my thread above.

The locking torque converter is designed to allow between (IIRC) 50 - 250rpm of slip.
In geartronic mode, the slip function is deactivated.

With VIDA, it is possible to activate a diagnostic mode that uses some lights on the dash to tell you what the gearbox is doing. If the juddering coincides with it telling you the TC is in slip mode, there's your problem.

Juddering will wear the locking friction plates, hence why my fluid came out black on what should have been a new' gearbox. They probably halved it's life in about 3k rolleyes.

It is essential that the correct fluid is used so that the designed slip is smooth.
Lubegard platinum did not work.

Possible someone has already changed yours for the wrong stuff?
I'd start there, research the correct oil for your gearbox (being a much later car I don't think its the JWS3309 mine uses) and change it all, sooner rather than later!

I've got a little spreadsheet that will calculate the % changed over a number of drain and fills - example from my 740 which has a smaller sump, so will take more changes:

Hit me up if you want a copy.




Edited by chris1roll on Saturday 16th September 09:51