Citroen C5 Aircross 2020
Discussion
I'm absolutely fed up with running older cars. I feel like I'm always chasing issues, or just waiting for the next one. I've had a Freelander 2 for the last 2 years and it's just feeling a bit ropey now. It's done us well as a family, including a couple of trips down to Cornwall, and up to visit my mum in Cumbria earlier this year and a trip to North Wales, however there is no getting away from the fact it's a heavy, mechanical 4wd car that despite having a 2013 numberplate, is essentially 20+ years old. I just about got 40mpg on my last trip up North, but when you mix in daily school runs etc, it's nearer 35mpg.
With another trip to Cumbria coming up this Sunday, I decided the week before was a great time to get something newer...
I spent an awful lot of time looking at options for my next car. My main criteria were: auto box, quite, refined, decent sound system, comfy, quiet and refined (again, it's really really important considering the upcoming journey). It also needs to be bigger as I like taking my bike places, including up North, so that's 2 kids, a dog and a bike inside the car. Also, my commute is A326/M27/M3.
I did really want a Tesla Model Y. I went to Belgium in one last year and thought it astonishing but it's just so much money. I'm not well off at all. We just about survive but there is nothing spare really, so I lowered my expectations.
I figured I could just about scrape together 10k, assuming I got 3k for my Freelander. This means only a small loan, alongside a couple of K down.
I started off looking at the Ford Edge. Don't know why, just liked the look of them and I like Ford interiors (wife just got a puma). Using Gemini an unhealthy amount and entering my criteria it also suggested a DS7 Crossback, a C5 Aircross and a Renault Koleos. It advised against the Edge as it's significantly less refined than the other 3 options plus heavier, less fuel efficient etc etc, so I begrudgingly ruled that one out.
I also fairly quickly ruled out the Koleos. I just didn't like the look of it, and the interior was dull. The auto box seems to be an issue too, so I was down the the C5 and the DS7 which are essentially the same car, one is just wearing nicer lingerie.
Gemini suggested I wanted the 2ltr diesel, due to the long run up North alongside the known issues with the 1.5 diesel and the 1.2 petrol (also, 1.2 moving a big SUV for 6 hours seems like a recipe for disaster imho)
This left me with one C5 and one DS7, both near Birmingham and both toppy miles wise (100 and 120k) - which feels like a lot when you're spending more than 10 grand.
Given my want for a Tesla, I thought I'd have a look at PHEV options. Again those same two options (DS7/C5) and anything else I could find. Nothing else ticked the box bar these two cars, and the PHEV version of the DS7 was too expensive. I did however find a C5 PHEV for just above my budget, and unbelievably it was only in Winchester.
I spoke to the dealer on Friday, and then went to view it on Monday. To say I was blown away was an understatement. The dealer was amazing. No pressure, just handed me the keys and told us (eldest and I) to take it out for as long as we wanted.
Oh my god. The ride is sublime. Anyone who's been here for a while will know I have a weird kink for French cars, specifically Citroen. I like the ride of the old hydroactive suspension and the quirks of french stuff. This is on a par if not better than anything I've ever been in. And it's quite. Oh so quiet. And the seats. They are like a sofa. And the digital dash. And the infotainment. And and and. All the mod cons. All the safety stuff I've never had. The adaptive cruise control. Android auto. All of this is a new world to me.
And that's before you get to the hybrid stuff. The way it switches from battery to petrol engine is mind-blowing to someone who's never driven one before.
I'm quite a relaxed driver these days. I'll happily plod along about 65/68mph on the motorway, don't rag it any more. All I want to do is get somewhere as chilled as possible. I think I read the road quite well (got 40mpg in the Freelander as mentioned above) and that just seems to work so well in this car. Nearly 30% of my drive yesterday was on electric generated by the car. Yes the range is only about 30 miles or so, but that means I can do the twice daily school run fully on electricity. My work is 20ish miles away but we have free charging there (when it's working). I think it will save money, but that's not the primary driver for this car, it was more about being in something modern, chilled and able to do the short stuff on electricity rather than firing up a big diesel lump each time. Buying from a decent dealer also means I have a 3 year warranty (paid for the extra 2 years)
Collection day is Friday and I can't wait.
With another trip to Cumbria coming up this Sunday, I decided the week before was a great time to get something newer...
I spent an awful lot of time looking at options for my next car. My main criteria were: auto box, quite, refined, decent sound system, comfy, quiet and refined (again, it's really really important considering the upcoming journey). It also needs to be bigger as I like taking my bike places, including up North, so that's 2 kids, a dog and a bike inside the car. Also, my commute is A326/M27/M3.
I did really want a Tesla Model Y. I went to Belgium in one last year and thought it astonishing but it's just so much money. I'm not well off at all. We just about survive but there is nothing spare really, so I lowered my expectations.
I figured I could just about scrape together 10k, assuming I got 3k for my Freelander. This means only a small loan, alongside a couple of K down.
I started off looking at the Ford Edge. Don't know why, just liked the look of them and I like Ford interiors (wife just got a puma). Using Gemini an unhealthy amount and entering my criteria it also suggested a DS7 Crossback, a C5 Aircross and a Renault Koleos. It advised against the Edge as it's significantly less refined than the other 3 options plus heavier, less fuel efficient etc etc, so I begrudgingly ruled that one out.
I also fairly quickly ruled out the Koleos. I just didn't like the look of it, and the interior was dull. The auto box seems to be an issue too, so I was down the the C5 and the DS7 which are essentially the same car, one is just wearing nicer lingerie.
Gemini suggested I wanted the 2ltr diesel, due to the long run up North alongside the known issues with the 1.5 diesel and the 1.2 petrol (also, 1.2 moving a big SUV for 6 hours seems like a recipe for disaster imho)
This left me with one C5 and one DS7, both near Birmingham and both toppy miles wise (100 and 120k) - which feels like a lot when you're spending more than 10 grand.
Given my want for a Tesla, I thought I'd have a look at PHEV options. Again those same two options (DS7/C5) and anything else I could find. Nothing else ticked the box bar these two cars, and the PHEV version of the DS7 was too expensive. I did however find a C5 PHEV for just above my budget, and unbelievably it was only in Winchester.
I spoke to the dealer on Friday, and then went to view it on Monday. To say I was blown away was an understatement. The dealer was amazing. No pressure, just handed me the keys and told us (eldest and I) to take it out for as long as we wanted.
Oh my god. The ride is sublime. Anyone who's been here for a while will know I have a weird kink for French cars, specifically Citroen. I like the ride of the old hydroactive suspension and the quirks of french stuff. This is on a par if not better than anything I've ever been in. And it's quite. Oh so quiet. And the seats. They are like a sofa. And the digital dash. And the infotainment. And and and. All the mod cons. All the safety stuff I've never had. The adaptive cruise control. Android auto. All of this is a new world to me.
And that's before you get to the hybrid stuff. The way it switches from battery to petrol engine is mind-blowing to someone who's never driven one before.
I'm quite a relaxed driver these days. I'll happily plod along about 65/68mph on the motorway, don't rag it any more. All I want to do is get somewhere as chilled as possible. I think I read the road quite well (got 40mpg in the Freelander as mentioned above) and that just seems to work so well in this car. Nearly 30% of my drive yesterday was on electric generated by the car. Yes the range is only about 30 miles or so, but that means I can do the twice daily school run fully on electricity. My work is 20ish miles away but we have free charging there (when it's working). I think it will save money, but that's not the primary driver for this car, it was more about being in something modern, chilled and able to do the short stuff on electricity rather than firing up a big diesel lump each time. Buying from a decent dealer also means I have a 3 year warranty (paid for the extra 2 years)
Collection day is Friday and I can't wait.
Edited by S100HP on Tuesday 21st July 10:18
These look like really decent cars. My Mrs keeps flirting with the idea of changing her Mini to something the kids can actually fit into, and she had her mind set on a 2017+ Peugeot 3008 for a while. Did you have a look at those too? Basically the same car as far as I can tell but with slightly different interiors and suspension (Peugeot rides a little more firmly I think?). Either way, both appear to be really well packaged cars and, in this market at least, fairly good value compared to others. Just avoid the 1.2 petrol obv.
Be interesting to see how you get on in the long term, OP
Be interesting to see how you get on in the long term, OP
Quhet said:
These look like really decent cars. My Mrs keeps flirting with the idea of changing her Mini to something the kids can actually fit into, and she had her mind set on a 2017+ Peugeot 3008 for a while. Did you have a look at those too? Basically the same car as far as I can tell but with slightly different interiors and suspension (Peugeot rides a little more firmly I think?). Either way, both appear to be really well packaged cars and, in this market at least, fairly good value compared to others. Just avoid the 1.2 petrol obv.
Be interesting to see how you get on in the long term, OP
I ruled out the Peugeot fairly quickly, ride isn't as good apparently. Comfort was my main goal so seemed foolish to consider the worse riding version. Be interesting to see how you get on in the long term, OP
I know it's not a PH car, but thought it worth a thread as it is quite a quirky car.
Great stuff. I really like Citroëns but have never owned one. The C5X is particularly interesting but the C5 Aircross looks really handy with the 3 individual sliding rear seats.
Im considering something like this eventually - or the 5th gen Honda CRV with the 1.5t engine appeals.
I totally understand the getting fed up with running older cars. I have a 211 E Class and it constantly needs something - most recently the turbo actuator and 2 ball joints. Regular spending here and there to keep on top of it etc.
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with it.
Im considering something like this eventually - or the 5th gen Honda CRV with the 1.5t engine appeals.
I totally understand the getting fed up with running older cars. I have a 211 E Class and it constantly needs something - most recently the turbo actuator and 2 ball joints. Regular spending here and there to keep on top of it etc.
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with it.
Was recently looking at the 408 with this engine but the wife decided she wanted an MG, do look great value for money.
Ford edge - I had one for 4 years, super comfortable but not much tech to set the world on fire (which I prefer). I had the 3.5 V6 and averaged 17-19mpg, by far my favourite car.
Great choice! I’m looking at my car options, Peugeot is on the list!
Ford edge - I had one for 4 years, super comfortable but not much tech to set the world on fire (which I prefer). I had the 3.5 V6 and averaged 17-19mpg, by far my favourite car.
Great choice! I’m looking at my car options, Peugeot is on the list!
I've had a C5 Aircross 1.5 dirty diesel for 4 months now. Very aggressively priced and low mileage. Sadly it required a new DPF (under warranty}.
As you say the comfort and refinement is uncanny. I had a severe back injury several years ago and value comfort above everything else. The seats are like a sofa and the ride is quiet and unfussed.
Economy is good - certainly much better than my previous Volvo.
It was a quirky choice, but I'll struggle to find anything else as comfortable for the money.
SD.
As you say the comfort and refinement is uncanny. I had a severe back injury several years ago and value comfort above everything else. The seats are like a sofa and the ride is quiet and unfussed.
Economy is good - certainly much better than my previous Volvo.
It was a quirky choice, but I'll struggle to find anything else as comfortable for the money.
SD.
I think these are a great looking car, imo citroen generally get the looks right. This one looks even better in that colour with those wheels.
I hope it goes well, keen to know how you get on with it.
Ive only had 1 citroen, it was brilliant, I also found the dealer to be very good too in terms of customer service when it came to services etc.
To add, a friend of mine who i consider to be pretty 'switched on' had a full.blown conversation with Gemini about switching his Lexus RX for an EV Merc CLA shooting break, he said he found it really helpful.
I hope it goes well, keen to know how you get on with it.
Ive only had 1 citroen, it was brilliant, I also found the dealer to be very good too in terms of customer service when it came to services etc.
To add, a friend of mine who i consider to be pretty 'switched on' had a full.blown conversation with Gemini about switching his Lexus RX for an EV Merc CLA shooting break, he said he found it really helpful.
Edited by Ste-EVo on Wednesday 22 July 07:26
Looks great, will be interested to see how you get on with it. We have a volvo xc40 EV going back in december and so looking for inspiration for a replacement to buy rather than lease
Wife likes the idea of a phev, as she doesnt like being dependent on motorway charging places on long trips.
Wife likes the idea of a phev, as she doesnt like being dependent on motorway charging places on long trips.
Cheers for the feedback. I obviously applied critical thinking to my discussions with Gemini but it certainly helped with my decision making, and pointing out issues etc.
Yes I managed to knock him down a little bit, or bumped my Freelander trade in up a little. Paid 7k plus the Freelander which I don't think is too bad.
Regarding spec, it's a Flair Plus, which is top of the range. Keyless. Wireless charging. LED headlight. Lane keep assist and active cruise control (Citroen call it Highway Driver Assist), double glazing. The only thing its really missing is heated seats.
The Highway Driver Assist is something I'm particularly interested in, especially with my motorway commute/long motorway runs. It's absolute witchcraft to someone who's never had anything like this. Basically it's semi autonomous.
My days of being interested in the driving dynamics of a car are gone. Absolutely couldn't give a toss how it actually drives on a winding road. I just want it to be as comfortable and as quiet as it can, with gadgets. I love gadgets. Modern dashboards in a car like this I think are amazing. I don't know how we coped with those old fashioned dials
I actually think it looks alright too. I'm sure the colour and the 19 inch wheels help. It's interesting.
Yes I managed to knock him down a little bit, or bumped my Freelander trade in up a little. Paid 7k plus the Freelander which I don't think is too bad.
Regarding spec, it's a Flair Plus, which is top of the range. Keyless. Wireless charging. LED headlight. Lane keep assist and active cruise control (Citroen call it Highway Driver Assist), double glazing. The only thing its really missing is heated seats.
The Highway Driver Assist is something I'm particularly interested in, especially with my motorway commute/long motorway runs. It's absolute witchcraft to someone who's never had anything like this. Basically it's semi autonomous.
My days of being interested in the driving dynamics of a car are gone. Absolutely couldn't give a toss how it actually drives on a winding road. I just want it to be as comfortable and as quiet as it can, with gadgets. I love gadgets. Modern dashboards in a car like this I think are amazing. I don't know how we coped with those old fashioned dials
I actually think it looks alright too. I'm sure the colour and the 19 inch wheels help. It's interesting.
S100HP said:
Cheers for the feedback. I obviously applied critical thinking to my discussions with Gemini but it certainly helped with my decision making, and pointing out issues etc.
Yes I managed to knock him down a little bit, or bumped my Freelander trade in up a little. Paid 7k plus the Freelander which I don't think is too bad.
Regarding spec, it's a Flair Plus, which is top of the range. Keyless. Wireless charging. LED headlight. Lane keep assist and active cruise control (Citroen call it Highway Driver Assist), double glazing. The only thing its really missing is heated seats.
The Highway Driver Assist is something I'm particularly interested in, especially with my motorway commute/long motorway runs. It's absolute witchcraft to someone who's never had anything like this. Basically it's semi autonomous.
My days of being interested in the driving dynamics of a car are gone. Absolutely couldn't give a toss how it actually drives on a winding road. I just want it to be as comfortable and as quiet as it can, with gadgets. I love gadgets. Modern dashboards in a car like this I think are amazing. I don't know how we coped with those old fashioned dials
I actually think it looks alright too. I'm sure the colour and the 19 inch wheels help. It's interesting.
100%. If you are using your car for commuting, you buy the best car for the job. I have not always practiced what I'm preaching having driven nigh on 1000 mile weeks in everything from 1200cc classic beetles and 450 Smart cars to Porsche 928 and e36 Evo M3 with everything in between from the sublime end of the scale to the ridiculous. For me, the Beetles, Smarts, StreetKa were the sublime by the way!!Yes I managed to knock him down a little bit, or bumped my Freelander trade in up a little. Paid 7k plus the Freelander which I don't think is too bad.
Regarding spec, it's a Flair Plus, which is top of the range. Keyless. Wireless charging. LED headlight. Lane keep assist and active cruise control (Citroen call it Highway Driver Assist), double glazing. The only thing its really missing is heated seats.
The Highway Driver Assist is something I'm particularly interested in, especially with my motorway commute/long motorway runs. It's absolute witchcraft to someone who's never had anything like this. Basically it's semi autonomous.
My days of being interested in the driving dynamics of a car are gone. Absolutely couldn't give a toss how it actually drives on a winding road. I just want it to be as comfortable and as quiet as it can, with gadgets. I love gadgets. Modern dashboards in a car like this I think are amazing. I don't know how we coped with those old fashioned dials
I actually think it looks alright too. I'm sure the colour and the 19 inch wheels help. It's interesting.
Yey. New car day. Been a bit full on, but up and running now.
Rewinding a little bit. When I test drove the car I was pretty happy with it, but noted a wheel wobble up towards 70mph. I did mention this to the salesman at the time of paying a deposit, and he said it'll go through their 200 point check. It was the only thing really. The tyre pressure warning light came on during that drive too.
Anyway, part of the garages service is a new MOT if under 6 months. As mine had 5 left, it went through the MOT. When I checked this online Wednesday night I got a warning regarding an outstanding recall, so when I spoke with the salesman on Thursday I asked him to confirm the VIN so I could check the Stellantis website. This showed no outstanding recalls. So I called Stellantis. They also confirmed no outstanding recalls. So no idea what that was all about!
Anyway, I messaged the salesman back on Thursday and told him this, and reminded him about the wheel wobble. Important to me as I'm driving 315 miles on Sunday, and then another 315 miles on Wednesday. He called me Friday morning and said it's been checked by the mechanics and also by him, and no major issue. He said there was a little wobble up near 80, but nothing major. I didn't feel like causing too much fuss so said that'll be fine, won't be doing much above 70 anyway, it's not that sort of car.
Anyway, jumped in the Freelander and headed to Winchester, which took an age due to the stupid roadworks at the bottom of the A34, arriving half hour late. Did the paperwork and set off home.
Guess what I felt as soon as I hit 65+ on the M3. Traffic on the M3 as mentioned was awful. I had one child with me and one at home alone...I really didn't feel like I could head back to the garage to have a discussion, and then wait whilst they sorted it, so I went home via the petrol station, where I found the rear tyre was at 18psi. 200 point check my arse. They must have just reset the tyre inflation warning thing.
Given the impending trip on Sunday, and the fact I'm at work tonight and tomorrow night I needed this sorted asap. I popped to the local tyre shop, where they balanced all 4 wheels, and changed the valve on one which was leaking. £60 later I was all sorted. No more wheel wobble!
Next it was to the local Tesco to charge up via Pod Point. I'd already registered and paid a tenner. The C5 has a 13.2kw battery, and the onboard charger speed is 3.7kw apparently. This means around 5hrs to charge up fully. There was an optional upgrade to a 7.4kw charger, but I didn't know if my car had that. Once plugged in it became apparent I did, as charging time was shown at 1hr45. Winner! I left the car at Tesco and went home for a few hours.
I returned to a 95% full car, with 28 miles battery range. This puts me on course for 30 miles when full, which suggests the battery is in pretty good health, and very close to the original range when new. Cost £5.15 to charge. I then filled up the tank for around £50, which gave an estimated range of 385 miles. I chucked my bike in the back (riding home between nights) and went off to work.
Finally I was able to relax and enjoy the car as it's supposed to be used. It defaults to electric only when it has charge but as my route to work is mostly fast roads (M27/M3) I switched it to hybrid and let it do it's thing. It used around 10 miles of electric battery and some fuel for the 20ish miles to work. The app suggested 123mpg for that trip. The trip computer which I reset when I got it climbed from 42ish up to well over 50mpg, and I've done about 60miles today.
Impressions are extremely positive. Ride is very comfortable. Seats are probably the best I've ever sat in. Sound system is good. Driver aids are amazing (lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control) and take a lot of effort out of driving. It's a good size for us all and having an auto box is an absolute game changer. Plugged in android auto this evening for work and that works really well. All very positive.
So a bit of a full on day, but finally up and running with it. Hope it does us well now. I'm not sad to see the back of the Freelander, this is like jumping into a spaceship in comparison.
I took one last picture of the tank before we left.
Apologies for the long winded post. It's probably not that interesting to most.
Oh, one more thing, no granny charger was included, so I borrowed one from a friend for out trip so I can charge when we get there. Assuming we make it...
Rewinding a little bit. When I test drove the car I was pretty happy with it, but noted a wheel wobble up towards 70mph. I did mention this to the salesman at the time of paying a deposit, and he said it'll go through their 200 point check. It was the only thing really. The tyre pressure warning light came on during that drive too.
Anyway, part of the garages service is a new MOT if under 6 months. As mine had 5 left, it went through the MOT. When I checked this online Wednesday night I got a warning regarding an outstanding recall, so when I spoke with the salesman on Thursday I asked him to confirm the VIN so I could check the Stellantis website. This showed no outstanding recalls. So I called Stellantis. They also confirmed no outstanding recalls. So no idea what that was all about!
Anyway, I messaged the salesman back on Thursday and told him this, and reminded him about the wheel wobble. Important to me as I'm driving 315 miles on Sunday, and then another 315 miles on Wednesday. He called me Friday morning and said it's been checked by the mechanics and also by him, and no major issue. He said there was a little wobble up near 80, but nothing major. I didn't feel like causing too much fuss so said that'll be fine, won't be doing much above 70 anyway, it's not that sort of car.
Anyway, jumped in the Freelander and headed to Winchester, which took an age due to the stupid roadworks at the bottom of the A34, arriving half hour late. Did the paperwork and set off home.
Guess what I felt as soon as I hit 65+ on the M3. Traffic on the M3 as mentioned was awful. I had one child with me and one at home alone...I really didn't feel like I could head back to the garage to have a discussion, and then wait whilst they sorted it, so I went home via the petrol station, where I found the rear tyre was at 18psi. 200 point check my arse. They must have just reset the tyre inflation warning thing.
Given the impending trip on Sunday, and the fact I'm at work tonight and tomorrow night I needed this sorted asap. I popped to the local tyre shop, where they balanced all 4 wheels, and changed the valve on one which was leaking. £60 later I was all sorted. No more wheel wobble!
Next it was to the local Tesco to charge up via Pod Point. I'd already registered and paid a tenner. The C5 has a 13.2kw battery, and the onboard charger speed is 3.7kw apparently. This means around 5hrs to charge up fully. There was an optional upgrade to a 7.4kw charger, but I didn't know if my car had that. Once plugged in it became apparent I did, as charging time was shown at 1hr45. Winner! I left the car at Tesco and went home for a few hours.
I returned to a 95% full car, with 28 miles battery range. This puts me on course for 30 miles when full, which suggests the battery is in pretty good health, and very close to the original range when new. Cost £5.15 to charge. I then filled up the tank for around £50, which gave an estimated range of 385 miles. I chucked my bike in the back (riding home between nights) and went off to work.
Finally I was able to relax and enjoy the car as it's supposed to be used. It defaults to electric only when it has charge but as my route to work is mostly fast roads (M27/M3) I switched it to hybrid and let it do it's thing. It used around 10 miles of electric battery and some fuel for the 20ish miles to work. The app suggested 123mpg for that trip. The trip computer which I reset when I got it climbed from 42ish up to well over 50mpg, and I've done about 60miles today.
Impressions are extremely positive. Ride is very comfortable. Seats are probably the best I've ever sat in. Sound system is good. Driver aids are amazing (lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control) and take a lot of effort out of driving. It's a good size for us all and having an auto box is an absolute game changer. Plugged in android auto this evening for work and that works really well. All very positive.
So a bit of a full on day, but finally up and running with it. Hope it does us well now. I'm not sad to see the back of the Freelander, this is like jumping into a spaceship in comparison.
I took one last picture of the tank before we left.
Apologies for the long winded post. It's probably not that interesting to most.
Oh, one more thing, no granny charger was included, so I borrowed one from a friend for out trip so I can charge when we get there. Assuming we make it...
A real shame the buying experience has been tarnished but such basic things you'd highlighted to them but now you have reassurance it's been sorted properly.
They're an interesting car, oddly I've seen 3 since reading this earlier in the week, I can't remember seeing many about at all previously.
They're an interesting car, oddly I've seen 3 since reading this earlier in the week, I can't remember seeing many about at all previously.
We have one of these as the family car. Its the 1.6T petrol with the EAT8 auto gearbox. Quite a good car actually. Fits 3 child seats in the back. It’s between a 3008 and 5008 size wise - 5 seats and big boot. Rides like a much lighter full fat Range Rover, unbelievable ride quality. Tows good for its size too. Ours has the upgrade brown full leather with the front heated seats - worth looking out for.
I hate the electric boot open / close, and the infotainment software isn’t great but not terrible - annoying you can’t change the heater controls without it.
The Peugeot Citroen stuff is good. Especially with the 1.6T petrol or the 2.0L diesel. The EAT8 auto box is 8 speed and suits the cars. Like suggested I’d stay away from the small capacity wet belt cars unless its a lease.
I hate the electric boot open / close, and the infotainment software isn’t great but not terrible - annoying you can’t change the heater controls without it.
The Peugeot Citroen stuff is good. Especially with the 1.6T petrol or the 2.0L diesel. The EAT8 auto box is 8 speed and suits the cars. Like suggested I’d stay away from the small capacity wet belt cars unless its a lease.
I posted this in the e-C5 EV thread:
OK, not an EV, but we have a 73 plate C5 Aircross 1.6 Hybrid as a pool car. Not many people use it when there are Audi's and Beemers on the fleet. In fact it has 11k on the clock, so I decided to use it on a 600 mile round trip. It's grey and looks pretty mean and funky from the front, but ugly, phat and blobby from every other angle.
But f
k me, what a comfortable car. I'm a fidgeter in most car seats, but the Advanced Comfort seats in the C5 were amazing. I plonked ma butt-tocks in the seat and didn't move them. In other cars I rotate onto alternate sides of my legs/bumcheeks for comfort. Add to that decent ride and refinement, and it's a nice place to be. Just ruined by all the tech - touch, touch, touch, touch + or - to change cabin temps, instead of grabbing a knob and rotating it down. A lot of other controls were like that too. On the 5 hour journey home, I had to endure the overly bright dash in the dark as I couldn't work out how to turn it down, so at the end of the trip my retinas were feeling tired. Rear legroom is rather tight for a big car.
But overall I can see that it ticks a lot of boxes for a family bus, and has lessened my view of Citroens being stroens.
OK, not an EV, but we have a 73 plate C5 Aircross 1.6 Hybrid as a pool car. Not many people use it when there are Audi's and Beemers on the fleet. In fact it has 11k on the clock, so I decided to use it on a 600 mile round trip. It's grey and looks pretty mean and funky from the front, but ugly, phat and blobby from every other angle.
But f
k me, what a comfortable car. I'm a fidgeter in most car seats, but the Advanced Comfort seats in the C5 were amazing. I plonked ma butt-tocks in the seat and didn't move them. In other cars I rotate onto alternate sides of my legs/bumcheeks for comfort. Add to that decent ride and refinement, and it's a nice place to be. Just ruined by all the tech - touch, touch, touch, touch + or - to change cabin temps, instead of grabbing a knob and rotating it down. A lot of other controls were like that too. On the 5 hour journey home, I had to endure the overly bright dash in the dark as I couldn't work out how to turn it down, so at the end of the trip my retinas were feeling tired. Rear legroom is rather tight for a big car.But overall I can see that it ticks a lot of boxes for a family bus, and has lessened my view of Citroens being s
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