CAR PORN ALERT !!!!!! Our trackday kit car.
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Here are a few pics of our Stuart Taylor Phoenix trackday car,presently under construction.Engine is a Fireblade 929. Loads of one off parts, made by ourselves. Alloy engine cradle, carbon tunnel, billet rack mounts and column mounts,pedals, all our own work.
In the pipeline...
titanium manifold, titanium blade type adjustable anti-roll bar ..
Can't wait to drive it!!
Geoff and Eldon. ,
P1010075 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010076 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010027 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010028 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
5 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010101 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010109 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010081 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010062 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
P1010022 by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
e by Geoff Lee, on Flickr
In the pipeline...
titanium manifold, titanium blade type adjustable anti-roll bar ..
Can't wait to drive it!!
Geoff and Eldon. ,











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Hi daz! We're very busy as you can see. You're welcome to come and see the car any time. You may be able to help us source some bits of carbon sheet we need.
We are usually in the garage most weekends.
Still loads to do. Eldon is making the fuel tank, header tank, breather tank etc. I'm busy on anti roll bar design and install. And making a complete loom from scratch.
Do you know anywhere local for limited slip diff work?
Geoff.
We are usually in the garage most weekends.
Still loads to do. Eldon is making the fuel tank, header tank, breather tank etc. I'm busy on anti roll bar design and install. And making a complete loom from scratch.
Do you know anywhere local for limited slip diff work?
Geoff.
dugt said:
....won't the pedals feel weird as they will be in different arks?...

Far from it Doug. This arrangement is often seen in race cars. My road going kit car has a similar arrangement. I find it perfectly OK, especially for heel and toeing.
Geoff.
Edited by spyder dryver on Saturday 15th February 17:31
MJO said:
Very nice, love the trick parts.
Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
MJO, do yourself a favour and hitch a ride in a "bike engined car", or BEC as they are referred to.Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
I didn't believe the performance either, given as you rightly point out, the apparent lack of outright power.
The 929 Blade engine only makes around 140hp or so, but it is the way it is delivered that makes the difference I think.
Bike engines have little or no flywheel type inertia to overcome, so they are very free revving. This, in combination with close gear ratios and overall gearing that runs out at 130mph or so, gives stunning performance. Low vehicle weight of 450kgs also helps. (Although this is mitigated somewhat when two "less than svelte" PHers climb aboard)
60mph is reached in around 4 seconds, 100mph in less than 10. I haven't measured these myself, I am quoting other sources, but these figures are typical. Bigger engined BECs are quicker still.
Acceleration through the gears from 50 to 130 is incredible.
Get yourself to a trackday and blag a ride. You'll be stunned!
Geoff.



Edited by spyder dryver on Saturday 15th February 20:49
This weekend we are mostly been making...a Titanium exhaust manifold, with Eldon on duty on the TIG set.
Not finished yet but well on the way. Not the easiest of materials to work with worth the effort. Making a collector is going to be fun as Titanium doesn't like being bent. Eldon says its a piece of p155 to weld though.


Not finished yet but well on the way. Not the easiest of materials to work with worth the effort. Making a collector is going to be fun as Titanium doesn't like being bent. Eldon says its a piece of p155 to weld though.
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selnic said:
..... would that be the great Eldon Sellars from Heanor, former bike crasher and pigeon-s
te welder ordinaire???
Would that be his cousin and ex mini clubman owner?
Here is Eldon in action. And I mean inaction!

Edited by spyder dryver on Saturday 15th February 17:17
spyder dryver said:
MJO said:
Very nice, love the trick parts.
Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
MJO, do yourself a favour and hitch a ride in a "bike engined car", or BEC as they are referred to.Not trying to start an argument here, but, do you think the Fireblade motor is powerful enough?
I didn't believe the performance either, given as you rightly point out, the apparent lack of outright power.
The 929 Blade engine only makes around 140hp or so, but it is the way it is delivered that makes the difference I think.
Bike engines have little or no flywheel type inertia to overcome, so they are very free revving. This, in combination with close gear ratios and overall gearing that runs out at 130mph or so, gives stunning performance. Low vehicle weight of 450kgs also helps. (Although this is mitigated somewhat when two "less than svelte" PHers climb aboard)
60mph is reached in around 4 seconds, 100mph in less than 10. I haven't measured these myself, I am quoting other sources, but these figures are typical. Bigger engined BECs are quicker still.
Acceleration through the gears from 50 to 130 is incredible.
Get yourself to a trackday and blag a ride. You'll be stunned!
Geoff.
Feel free to tell me to shut up, these are just my thoughts.
MJO said:
....... if I was in your position I'd definately consider something with more capacity.
Feel free to tell me to shut up, these are just my thoughts.
I wouldn't dream of telling you to shut up. Your point is a fair one. The 929 engine came along at the right price, especially when compared (price wise) to the zx12 or busa units. Feel free to tell me to shut up, these are just my thoughts.
IF we do get used to it to the point of boredom I have a plan which involves a small turbo, a medium sized intercooler and yet more titanium. This is, hopefully, far into the future.
The 929 is cheaply replaceable too.
And talking of titanium, the system is virtually finished.
Second pic shows the slash cut tailpipe poking through our (very) second hand bodywork.( Tim Gray's old bodywork from his Championship winning Phoenix, hence the no.1 )
Geoff.
Edited by spyder dryver on Friday 12th February 19:47
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