My Citroen ZX 16V
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wayn3h

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15 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Some of you may have seen this for sale on here.. am starting to have second thoughts though as I know I'm going to regret it and probably wont get another chance to get an unmolested one again.

It's one of 81 left on the road and hasn't been in the hands of a Halfords racer in it's life. haha. Only small mod it has is a K&N. It's done a little over 106K has plenty left in it I reckon. Definetly a bit of a trojan horse and can put a lot of other similar hatches in their place.

It does need a bit of tlc on the front bumper/bonnet and some idiot has made a small scrape in the paintwork on the rear bumper just last week :@.. But isn't looking too bad for a K plate!

Anyway, just posting it on here to see what you guys think!





http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s183/wayn3h/zx1...

number2301

508 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Awesome, I love those! You don't see many for sale either, how much was it up for?

Pentoman

4,835 posts

291 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Lovely car.
Zxs Drive nicely and have an interesting look... Well done for choosing something a bit different, i guess!

wayn3h

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15 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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@ number2301, it's still up for 1250.. Just gauging interest really.

It's a hard one as I'm at uni for another couple of years and I do a fair few miles. So thinking it may be sensible to get a diesel. Was thinking maybe a Volcane as I do have a thing for ZX's. Love the way they handle and I hear the XUD's are nigh on indestructible. haha.

robsco

7,875 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Very nice unmolested example, lovely in white.

davegriff

83 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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looks really good - nice work

shalmaneser

6,382 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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What engine is in this?

wayn3h

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15 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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These Phase 1 16V's had the same engine as the Pug S16.. XU10 I4? The later Phase 2 had the same as a GTI 6.. Don't know whether those made it over here though.

Edited by wayn3h on Wednesday 1st September 22:55


Edited by wayn3h on Wednesday 1st September 22:56

utgjon

713 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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that car looks so french it hurts! biggrin

JFReturns

3,820 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Would look better without the 16v badges.

wayn3h

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15 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Yea have thought that.. They are original though which is the only thing making me keep them on.

visual123

150 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Looks nice. I have a bit of a soft spot for these. Pretty rare too.

DaveVXR

293 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I had one of these, awesome car. Much preferred it to a 306GTI.

anonymous-user

82 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I had one of those for 4 years, and loved it! mine was actually an ex-press car, i added some GrpN rear beam mounts, the 6speeder from the gti-6 (bolts straight on, just don't expect to be able to turn right much!!) At the time a guy i worked with had a proper GTi-6, and those cars were so even it was amazing, we could do a 50mile cross country blast and still be only a fag paper apart. Miss mine actually ;-(


(also, little known fact, as the ZX16v has the "tuned for torque" 2.0, which has the switchable length intake manifold, it needs an engine driven vac pump to maintain the vaccuum, and this is also used for the brake servo, so, as a result, it's one of the best cars to left foot brake that i've ever had, as the brake force doesnt change with throttle angle!! On a wet roundabouts, with a bit of LFB'ing, i had people ask if it was rwd..........)

wayn3h

Original Poster:

15 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Max_Torque said:
I had one of those for 4 years, and loved it! mine was actually an ex-press car, i added some GrpN rear beam mounts, the 6speeder from the gti-6 (bolts straight on, just don't expect to be able to turn right much!!) At the time a guy i worked with had a proper GTi-6, and those cars were so even it was amazing, we could do a 50mile cross country blast and still be only a fag paper apart. Miss mine actually ;-(


(also, little known fact, as the ZX16v has the "tuned for torque" 2.0, which has the switchable length intake manifold, it needs an engine driven vac pump to maintain the vaccuum, and this is also used for the brake servo, so, as a result, it's one of the best cars to left foot brake that i've ever had, as the brake force doesnt change with throttle angle!! On a wet roundabouts, with a bit of LFB'ing, i had people ask if it was rwd..........)
Have been tempted by a GTI6 engine/gearbox conversion.. Are the gains worth it? Or am I better off tuning the S16 motor in there?

Mr E

22,982 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I ran a base 1.4 years ago. Nice little chassis - engine and build quality were very suspect.

Lift off oversteer on demand, pretty much anywhere....

anonymous-user

82 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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wayn3h said:
Max_Torque said:
I had one of those for 4 years, and loved it! mine was actually an ex-press car, i added some GrpN rear beam mounts, the 6speeder from the gti-6 (bolts straight on, just don't expect to be able to turn right much!!) At the time a guy i worked with had a proper GTi-6, and those cars were so even it was amazing, we could do a 50mile cross country blast and still be only a fag paper apart. Miss mine actually ;-(


(also, little known fact, as the ZX16v has the "tuned for torque" 2.0, which has the switchable length intake manifold, it needs an engine driven vac pump to maintain the vaccuum, and this is also used for the brake servo, so, as a result, it's one of the best cars to left foot brake that i've ever had, as the brake force doesnt change with throttle angle!! On a wet roundabouts, with a bit of LFB'ing, i had people ask if it was rwd..........)
Have been tempted by a GTI6 engine/gearbox conversion.. Are the gains worth it? Or am I better off tuning the S16 motor in there?
The 6 speed g/box is deffinately worth it, as it makes 3rd & 4th so much more useable, as to the engine, it depends what you want. If the std 167bhp is enough (up from the 155 of the ZX 16v) then thats almost certainly the simplest most reliable method, but for me, if i was going to tune it at all then i'd want at least 200bhp and preferably 220-240, which would be such a major tear up of either engine it wouldn't really matter where you started (the primary differences between 167 & 155 versions are the exhaust manifold (tubular steel for 167, cast iron for 155, intake (free flow ally for 167, switchable plastic for 155) and the cams (more lift, duration for 167) also, ultimately the later 167 engine has smaller dia intake valve stems, and a lighter valvetrain so would be ultimately more tunable)
In either case you'd be wanting a set of throttle bodies, long branch exh manifold, reprofiled cams, and programmable ecu to get a serious power gain)

number2301

508 posts

228 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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wayn3h said:
@ number2301, it's still up for 1250.. Just gauging interest really.

It's a hard one as I'm at uni for another couple of years and I do a fair few miles. So thinking it may be sensible to get a diesel. Was thinking maybe a Volcane as I do have a thing for ZX's. Love the way they handle and I hear the XUD's are nigh on indestructible. haha.
Bit rich for my blood, the last few I've seen up were about £600. Chronically underpriced in fairness but not very many people like them.

I really wouldn't get something boring just for the fuel economy, I did exactly the same, got through a 1.4 SPI ZX and a 1.1 Saxo before I figured out I'd much rather pay the petrol difference. It isn't even that much doing 150 miles a week.

As for tuning, I wouldn't bother with the 6 engine, if money was no object I'd go long stroke crank, high comp pistons, throttle bodies and cams for 220-240bhp wink . If you're only going mild just stick cams, 6 manifolds and aftermarket ECU on.

Oh and AVAC, great if it works wink

Matt0812

1,546 posts

233 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Those 'orginal' 16v stickers look a lot shinier than the Citroen and ZX ones...

JFReturns

3,820 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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You can buy those exact ones from Halfords. I don't think they look original, but I cba to google the history to find out.