I have a squeaky front end(!). (997 C2S)

[tomw2000]

I've an 06 plate, 28k mile 997.1 C2S.

Bit pampered, not used as a daily. Kept garaged. All service record up to date etc.

Anyway out for a pootle today, and I noticed a squeak from the front end at low speed. It's not the brakes catching.
Happens only when turning right (I think...).

Some kind of suspensiony/turny thingy? (I'm not mechanically minded...).

Any guess? Likely costs etc.

PS - someone remind me which Mobil1 i need to put in. Need a wee top up.

[HoHoHo]

Could be a stone caught between the rotor and back plate?

Try reversing to see if it comes out......squeak gone

I think oil is 0W40?

[Trev450]

Quite possibly dry suspension bushes/joints. Driving it may make it temporarily go away otherwise you will have to get out the WD40.

Oil is either 0W/40 or 5W/40

[Ian_UK1]

tomw2000 said:

I've an 06 plate, 28k mile 997.1 C2S.

Bit pampered, not used as a daily. Kept garaged. All service record up to date etc.

Anyway out for a pootle today, and I noticed a squeak from the front end at low speed. It's not the brakes catching.
Happens only when turning right (I think...).

Some kind of suspensiony/turny thingy? (I'm not mechanically minded...).

Any guess? Likely costs etc.

PS - someone remind me which Mobil1 i need to put in. Need a wee top up.

I had exactly the same symptoms on my Gen-2. Turned-out to be a trackrod end ball joint that had dried out. Taking the wheel off and rotating the steering arm found the squeak. Replacement rod end (about £60 from memory) cured it but......

It also needs circa £250 of wheel alignment as well to get everything pointing in the right direction again. And no, unfortunately, you can't just count the threads on the steering arm because no two trackrod ends are exactly the same length! I had my repair done at Center Gravity and Chris proved this out - the toe was exactly right (2 mins toe-in per side) prior to replacing the part. After replacement (and despite counting the threads accurately) there was (from memory) 17 mins toe-in on the driver's side.

Mobil 1 0W-40 New Life is the current factory fill

[AJCAY]

I had exactly the same issue as well on my 997 S and my Indie lubricated the top steering ball joint and cured it completely.

[tracydeedance]

Suspension joints and bushes.
As said lube all with WD40 but only a temp fix. lasted few months
on one of the wifes old Boxsters.

[Callughan]

Could be suspension mount, and is covered under warranty

[tomw2000]

Callughan said:

Could be suspension mount, and is covered under warranty

ooh, that'd be good. I have kept warranty going, so you never know.

I maybe get OPC to have a look first.

Thanks for all the answers!!!!!

[tomw2000]

Update: so car in with Notts OPC today to check my squeaky bits.

But....raining today....and I suspect that any rain is acting as a lubricant on the previously squeaky bits. So they can't reproduce the squeak.

They gonna get ignition coils and an aircon condenser in to replace under warranty. And we just keep an eye out for squeaking to start again.

They have had a poke around and all seems in order. But said ALL the suspensiony bits weren't under warranty so we'd have to pay for investigation work.

Does anyone know what/if any suspension bits the full porsche extended warrany does cover?

[Deanos CaymanS]

Can't give you a definitive list but I had front mounting plates and an alignment done a couple of weeks ago under extended warranty - 57 plate 37k miles. I asked them what the issue was when it went in for its 4 year / 40k service so the car was alerady in and no separate identification work was needed.
My symptoms were more of a grinding / resistance in the steering at parking / manoeuvring speeds than a squeak per se.
Hope you get it sorted.

[Diesel130]

tomw2000 said:

Any guess? Likely costs etc.

Coffin arm bushes? If so, new coffin arms are about 220GBP each.

[Ian_UK1]

tomw2000 said:

Update: so car in with Notts OPC today to check my squeaky bits.

But....raining today....and I suspect that any rain is acting as a lubricant on the previously squeaky bits. So they can't reproduce the squeak.

They gonna get ignition coils and an aircon condenser in to replace under warranty. And we just keep an eye out for squeaking to start again.

They have had a poke around and all seems in order. But said ALL the suspensiony bits weren't under warranty so we'd have to pay for investigation work.

Does anyone know what/if any suspension bits the full porsche extended warrany does cover?

The knackered trackrod end on mine didn't squeak/grind when it rained either. Hopefully you'll be lucky and this might be all it is.

Did the 'squeaky' noise happen only when turning or when the suspension went up and down too (e.g. when you applied the brakes/released them and the nose of the car dipped/rose)? Knowing this will help narrow down the likely culprit.

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Friday 5th August 09:16

[tomw2000]

Ian_UK1 said:

tomw2000 said:

Update: so car in with Notts OPC today to check my squeaky bits.

But....raining today....and I suspect that any rain is acting as a lubricant on the previously squeaky bits. So they can't reproduce the squeak.

They gonna get ignition coils and an aircon condenser in to replace under warranty. And we just keep an eye out for squeaking to start again.

They have had a poke around and all seems in order. But said ALL the suspensiony bits weren't under warranty so we'd have to pay for investigation work.

Does anyone know what/if any suspension bits the full porsche extended warrany does cover?

The knackered trackrod end on mine didn't squeak/grind when it rained either. Hopefully you'll be lucky and this might be all it is.

Did the 'squeaky' noise happen only when turning or when the suspension went up and down too (e.g. when you applied the brakes/released them and the nose of the car dipped/rose)? Knowing this will help narrow down the likely culprit.

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Friday 5th August 09:16

So she went back in yesterday to have the free warranty work done (cracked coil thingies and aircon thingy wotsit).
_brilliantly_ they have not fixed the squeak. It's still there. I went for a spin last night. VEry audible. Mostly when turning right. under normal driving. Not necessarilly hammering it.
it doesn't happen when suspension is going up and down under braking as you describe.

I can only think they're not bothering to drive it to hear for themselves. /sigh/.
I'll have to take it back in.

Interestingly they mentioned to my wife the car will need some more 'tests' on cylinders 4,5,6 and the firing (wife didn't understand, I'll call them today) and paperwork doing before the next extended warranty can be applied (it's an 06 car). Warranty not due for renewal until march '12.
Anyone know what this might mean? not heard of this before.

[IMI A]

could be an incorrectly fitted front LEFT tyre. Have you had hem changed recently?

Edited by IMI A on Wednesday 24th August 20:20

[Martian O]

IMI A said:

could be an incorrectly fitted front right tyre. Have you had hem changed recently?

How can one be incorrectly fitted?

[tomw2000]

Martian O said:

IMI A said:

could be an incorrectly fitted front right tyre. Have you had hem changed recently?

How can one be incorrectly fitted?

Tyres were fitted a few Ks ago and have never squeaked previously....

[nsm3]

tomw2000 said:

Interestingly they mentioned to my wife the car will need some more 'tests' on cylinders 4,5,6 and the firing (wife didn't understand, I'll call them today) and paperwork doing before the next extended warranty can be applied (it's an 06 car). Warranty not due for renewal until march '12.
Anyone know what this might mean? not heard of this before.

Yes, they "suspect" all is not well with your engine and need to test it/possibly repair it before they can extend the warranty.

Whatever you do, don't let the warranty lapse, as any repairs will be covered under your existing warranty (unless you have fitted a Magic Tree of course).

Edited to say, re: your "noisy suspension" - my car had the same thing at the 4 yr service and they diagnosed coffin arm bushes. New ones were £700 plus fitting and aren't covered under warranty as they are "wear and tear" items apparently. When I pointed out that my car had less than 9,000 miles on the clock, they decided to lubricate the bushes (which has worked). They did say that due to the low mileage, they would push for a warranty repair if the problem reappears.

Edited by nsm3 on Wednesday 24th August 09:14

[tomw2000]

nsm3 said:

Yes, they "suspect" all is not well with your engine and need to test it/possibly repair it before they can extend the warranty.

Whatever you do, don't let the warranty lapse, as any repairs will be covered under your existing warranty (unless you have fitted a Magic Tree of course).

yeah - I thought that would be the case. I'll make sure she's booked in well before current warranty dies.

FWIW car is running normally/well. No excessive oil use and stuff. But I realise these engine failures can be hard to spot

[IMI A]

tomw2000 said:

Martian O said:

IMI A said:

could be an incorrectly fitted front right tyre. Have you had hem changed recently?

How can one be incorrectly fitted?

Tyres were fitted a few Ks ago and have never squeaked previously....

They could have cut the inner lip of the tyre away (happens more often than you think). When the car is turning right it may be creating load if they have cut inner tyre wall whilst fitting and the tyre itself is moving slightly under load to the right hence causing the squeeking. Did the car squeek before you had the tyres fitted? If not take it back to where you had them fitted and ask them to take the front tyres off and check they haven't been damaged whilst fitting.

[Martian O]

IMI A said:

They could have cut the inner lip of the tyre away (happens more often than you think).

Never heard of or experienced that myself.