getting an OPC warranty on a dealer-bought car
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I am about to transit to first rear-engined porsche (early 997 S) but decided I need my hand held with a porsche warranty. I am quite interested in a car advertised by Romans of St Albans. Their blurb says that the price includes a 12 month RAC warranty which they value at £1000. I was given an RAC warranty on my 968 when I bought 7 years ago, and on another family car since. In neither case did the warranty cover me when things went wrong subsequently, so I am fairly underwhelmed by the RAC to say the least...
Since this dealer proudly claims that the sticker price includes the cost of warranty, I am sure they will be happy to take off a grand and supply without the RAC cover
but if I buy from them, is there a way of getting the OPC warranty?( I understood could wait 3 months then get a 111 point check plus everything fixed, then purchase the warranty but this seems a tad risky)
Since this dealer proudly claims that the sticker price includes the cost of warranty, I am sure they will be happy to take off a grand and supply without the RAC cover
but if I buy from them, is there a way of getting the OPC warranty?( I understood could wait 3 months then get a 111 point check plus everything fixed, then purchase the warranty but this seems a tad risky)The RAC cover will cost them a lot less than £1000 so to achieve what you want I'd suggest they get the OPC to inspect the car at their cost and provide 3 months cover for you so you can then buy cover from Porsche after 90 days.
If they provide the 3 months as RAC warranty at least there'll be less wiggle room if you do need to claim, as you will have proof of an inspection before the RAC cover was taken out.
If they provide the 3 months as RAC warranty at least there'll be less wiggle room if you do need to claim, as you will have proof of an inspection before the RAC cover was taken out.
softinthehead said:
I am about to transit to first rear-engined porsche (early 997 S) but decided I need my hand held with a porsche warranty. I am quite interested in a car advertised by Romans of St Albans. Their blurb says that the price includes a 12 month RAC warranty which they value at £1000. I was given an RAC warranty on my 968 when I bought 7 years ago, and on another family car since. In neither case did the warranty cover me when things went wrong subsequently, so I am fairly underwhelmed by the RAC to say the least...
Since this dealer proudly claims that the sticker price includes the cost of warranty, I am sure they will be happy to take off a grand and supply without the RAC cover but if I buy from them, is there a way of getting the OPC warranty?( I understood could wait 3 months then get a 111 point check plus everything fixed, then purchase the warranty but this seems a tad risky)
You have to own the car for 90 days, then take it to OPC for the 111 pointer, get ANY work done they say by them at their rates, then they will allow you to buy the warranty. If the car has non Porsche service then they will insist on 48k service to.Since this dealer proudly claims that the sticker price includes the cost of warranty, I am sure they will be happy to take off a grand and supply without the RAC cover
but if I buy from them, is there a way of getting the OPC warranty?( I understood could wait 3 months then get a 111 point check plus everything fixed, then purchase the warranty but this seems a tad risky)Soovy said:
You have to own the car for 90 days, then take it to OPC for the 111 pointer, get ANY work done they say by them at their rates, then they will allow you to buy the warranty. If the car has non Porsche service then they will insist on 48k service to.
Ah. Hmm. less good. car is advertised as with full OPC history, but price includes their workshop service before collection, so I'd have to ask them not to do that either, or automaticlly incur a 48k service with OPC. looking a tad more trickyFrom what I have been hearing and reading I would not even touch an early 997 unless it had a cast iron warranty and believe me an RAC warranty is not cast iron.
I would want either Indies own or OPC not insurance as they always wiggle out of it, I know from experience and I would certainly not buy with a service from a non Porsche garage as you will never get the Porsche warranty .
They will warranty a car serviced by a known specialist only, I renewed mine with Porsche Hatfield after my year warranty with Portiacraft who had done the servicng expired, this was on the recommendation of Harry who said they simply cannot match the OPC warranty on price or what is covered.
The early 997 engine problems are not a myth they are only too real.
Speak to a few Indies they will confirm.
Portiacraft have had to send a fair number engines to Hartech to be repaired under their warranty this year and are getting paranoid about the early cars they buy in, I doubt the non Porsche specialists will be as demanding when buying stock or as prepared to fix them when they go wrong, speak to Henry at 911 Virgin or Joel at RSJ they will confirm the amount of cars they are seeing with engine problems and the checks they do before committing to buy and even then they go pop. Harry confirmed that for every 5 cars they look at 2 have scored liners hence the low availability of good stock.
So all in all be very careful what you buy and get a decent warranty, if Romans will in house fully cover the first 3 months for total engine failure then you will be fine to get the OPC warranty.
I would want either Indies own or OPC not insurance as they always wiggle out of it, I know from experience and I would certainly not buy with a service from a non Porsche garage as you will never get the Porsche warranty .
They will warranty a car serviced by a known specialist only, I renewed mine with Porsche Hatfield after my year warranty with Portiacraft who had done the servicng expired, this was on the recommendation of Harry who said they simply cannot match the OPC warranty on price or what is covered.
The early 997 engine problems are not a myth they are only too real.
Speak to a few Indies they will confirm.
Portiacraft have had to send a fair number engines to Hartech to be repaired under their warranty this year and are getting paranoid about the early cars they buy in, I doubt the non Porsche specialists will be as demanding when buying stock or as prepared to fix them when they go wrong, speak to Henry at 911 Virgin or Joel at RSJ they will confirm the amount of cars they are seeing with engine problems and the checks they do before committing to buy and even then they go pop. Harry confirmed that for every 5 cars they look at 2 have scored liners hence the low availability of good stock.
So all in all be very careful what you buy and get a decent warranty, if Romans will in house fully cover the first 3 months for total engine failure then you will be fine to get the OPC warranty.
thanks to all for your input. I am in no hurry as the sun is still shining on my 968 cab, and I am prepared to wait for the right car with the right spec. So my options are therefore the right OPC car, a private sale that has the transferable OPC warranty, or buy from one of the few renowned specialists that offer their own scheme.
softinthehead said:
thanks to all for your input. I am in no hurry as the sun is still shining on my 968 cab, and I am prepared to wait for the right car with the right spec. So my options are therefore the right OPC car, a private sale that has the transferable OPC warranty, or buy from one of the few renowned specialists that offer their own scheme.
Spot on, you've got it right.monthefish said:
softinthehead said:
So my options are therefore the right OPC car, a private sale that has the transferable OPC warranty, or buy from one of the few renowned specialists that offer their own scheme.
...or a private sale that has a renowned specialist warranty. Diesel130 said:
Or buy from an Indi, who "sells on behalf of the customer", so that the OPC warranty is transferable - like this one of Henrys was http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/345/997C2S...
yup, saw that one. but you have to be quick off the mark with henry's stock..Would getting an inspection from Peter Morgan negate the need for OPC or an Indy specialist like RSJ , 911Virgin, Hartec etc to carry out their own inspection, thus avoiding paying twice? Has this been agreed before at all??
PM provides a thorough 230 point independent inspection for c. £350.
PM provides a thorough 230 point independent inspection for c. £350.
Xstyle said:
Would getting an inspection from Peter Morgan negate the need for OPC or an Indy specialist like RSJ , 911Virgin, Hartec etc to carry out their own inspection, thus avoiding paying twice? Has this been agreed before at all??
PM provides a thorough 230 point independent inspection for c. £350.
I'm not understanding the question - do you mean, if you're buying from 911 Virgin (or OPC or RSJ or Hartech), do you still need an inspection?PM provides a thorough 230 point independent inspection for c. £350.
monthefish said:
I'm not understanding the question - do you mean, if you're buying from 911 Virgin (or OPC or RSJ or Hartech), do you still need an inspection?
I wouldn't even thought to do an independent inspection, not tied to the dealer, until I read Boggie's post here on RSJ & PM and subsequently RSJ stating that they welcome other independent inspections in the warranties thread.My question is, if I want to get a warranty from OPC or from an Indy dealer, from a car that is not supplied by them, they would carry out their own inspection which you pay for (I read somewhere it was £150 for a 111 point inspection).
However, if Peter Morgan carried out his 230 point inspection, this is more in depth than the dealers, so coud it replace their inspection instead? This benefits the customer as its more in-depth, and also impartial from the dealer.
Thanks
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