Porsche motorsport part numbers
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sportsandclassic

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Hi,

Need to know if anyone knows where I can get a 996 gt3 cup car parts catalogue online from, I know officially you should be running a cup car and you get the motorsport program with all part numbers on it.

Any ideas?

Mike

fioran0

2,410 posts

202 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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The few that were up online have all been taken down. I believe Porsche aggressively pushed the copyright infringement and continue to do so.

The parts PDF is over 400mb in size also.

Alot of the 996 part numbers have superseded from the ones on the lists too and you need later catalogs or a chat with motorsports in Germany to figure out what's what. A cup is needed to have dialogue.

What year are you looking for and what parts sections?
I assume gearbox since you are about to rebuild yours and other areas of the car such as suspension offer a whole heap of alternatives that don't require a call to Germany.

The Cup world seems to be closing in again. For a while there it was pretty open but non cup guys sucked up a bunch of cosmetic and upgrade parts and made it harder to get/trade parts to keep the Cup running costs down.

Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 20th August 18:30

sportsandclassic

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Hi,

More suspension part numbers like the solid centre bush for coffin arm and the uni ball pivot assembly for the coffin arms.

Mike

fioran0

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Tarett engineering or RSS will be a better call than motorsport for this stuff. Much cheaper and actual product support.

Ira tarett at tarett engineering is excellent to deal with and their stuff is top notch.

The solid caster pucks are actually RSR parts. Cups upgraded for 24hr races but otherwise run rubber until 997. The solid pivot is only used on the rear on the cup on the 996. Front is rubber.
If my info is correct the road cars don't have two piece rear control arms?



Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 20th August 18:39

sportsandclassic

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fioran0 said:
Tarett engineering or RSS will be a better call than motorsport for this stuff.

Ira tarett at tarett engineering is excellent to deal with and their stuff is top notch.

The solid caster pucks are actually RSR parts. Cups upgraded for 24hr races but otherwise run rubber until 997. The solid pivot is only used on the rear on the cup on the 996. Front is rubber.
If my info is correct the road cars don't have two piece rear control arms?
Hi I know 997 cup car run uniball and was sure 996 cup cars ran uni ball pivots. Only 996 gt3 rs runs split rear arms.

Will try the parts source you recommended.

Mi,e

fioran0

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Yeah the 997 is pretty much all solid bushed. The 996 is only so at the rear.
Front arms are pretty much stock though there's a technical memo suggesting changing to solid for endurance racing.
It's the solid subframe, solid engine mounts and solid trans mount that makes the 996 feel so direct.
It makes everything a solid mass.
I've solid arms on the front of one of my 996 cups. Feels no different than my other still running rubber.

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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sportsandclassic said:
Hi,

Need to know if anyone knows where I can get a 996 gt3 cup car parts catalogue online from, I know officially you should be running a cup car and you get the motorsport program with all part numbers on it.

Any ideas?

Mike
Hi Mike

Have a chat with Nick/Nigel at R&D in Eccles. They have a contact at Porsche Motorsport and have been able to source motorsport parts in the past.

sportsandclassic

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Ian_UK1 said:
Hi Mike

Have a chat with Nick/Nigel at R&D in Eccles. They have a contact at Porsche Motorsport and have been able to source motorsport parts in the past.
Hi Ian,

Getting the parts is not a problem, I would just like my own PDF version so I don't have to keep getting in touch with a local race team and pecking their heads every time I want some bits... I can order them once I have the part number through my local dealer.

Mike

Ian_UK1

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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sportsandclassic said:
Hi Ian,

Getting the parts is not a problem, I would just like my own PDF version so I don't have to keep getting in touch with a local race team and pecking their heads every time I want some bits... I can order them once I have the part number through my local dealer.

Mike
Might be worth asking them if they have a copy of the PDF. They were running a cup car when the 996 was current, so they may have the file.

fioran0

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The trick is to shop smart. There's a ton of parts (and both mikes requests fall into this) where if it's not actually for a cup where you need to use motorsport parts to stay in class you are far better served sourcing elsewhere.
Prices are lower and you get product support.
The tarett stuff is used for the spec 996 racing in the US so track tested.

sportsandclassic

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Hi,

To be honest I have machining facilities on site so I may make some of the parts like the solid caster mounts and also I want adjustable drop links as you would be surprised when on corner weight scales if you put the link bars on it loads the bar up to around 30 kg so they just need to be able to be adjustable by as little as 3-5mm.

All seem to cost a lot of cash but if I can just find the time I can manufacture a lot of the parts, I will price the jobup and see if it is cost effective for me to make them or just buy them.

Mike

fioran0

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That sounds like an even smarter way to shop smile
Adjustable drop links are a must IMHO. Even if you don't bother corner weighting the car being able to just ensure zero preload under static conditions is hugely helpful.

sportsandclassic

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Hi,

It is having all the kw unit's refreshed and rebuilt, I wanted to do the gearbox rebuild and then replace all the suspension and carry out the geometry with full corner weight setup. We recently bought a hunter wheel alignment machine and a full set of inter comp digital corner weight scales. Really I bought them for me not work smile

I have never been so enthusiastic about any of my cars before, I just love this GT3.

Mike

fioran0

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Haha.
Be glad you don't have a cup. Those are even worse for the addiction smile

I'll post on your other thread but are you going to weld your coolant fittings while you're doing your overhauls?

keep it lit

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197 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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I modified my drop-links to adjustable jobs, one per axle mind!

Ade

sportsandclassic

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Hi,

No intention of doing that as it seems a rare failure as far as I can tell. It involves engine out does it ?

Would like to drive it once before Christmas !

Mike

keep it lit

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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fioran0 said:
Haha.
Be glad you don't have a cup. Those are even worse for the addiction smile

I'll post on your other thread but are you going to weld your coolant fittings while you're doing your overhauls?
Hot topic Neil, as i was just reading on Rennlist regards this....!!

I think i will address it over the winter when i remove my engine once the season finishes, by then i will have decided to go either 3.8, 3.9 or 4.0L... ???

fioran0

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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Yeah.
It's definitely getting less rare that's for sure.
Mine are all welded up. I don't want that headache (and if running coolant that responsibility)

With gearbox already out it's easy to drop the engine and do it, but it does need the engine out along with partial disassembly and a bunch of o-rings.

It seems just age/heat combo is finally bringing the glue to it's end. The glue not only holds the fittings but also seals it. Once it goes it seems to be instantaneous and given it's onto the wheels, very dangerous.

sportsandclassic

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Saturday 20th August 2011
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fioran0 said:
Yeah.
It's definitely getting less rare that's for sure.
Mine are all welded up. I don't want that headache (and if running coolant that responsibility)

With gearbox already out it's easy to drop the engine and do it, but it does need the engine out along with partial disassembly and a bunch of o-rings.

It seems just age/heat combo is finally bringing the glue to it's end. The glue not only holds the fittings but also seals it. Once it goes it seems to be instantaneous and given it's onto the wheels, very dangerous.
Hi,

Have you got any pictures of the failed parts, did see some a long time ago.

Mike

keep it lit

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sportsandclassic said:
Hi,

Have you got any pictures of the failed parts, did see some a long time ago.

Mike
here you go mike..

http://www.gt2gt3cup.org/showthread.php?t=199&...