Discussion
Interested in a 996 Turbo S and would like to canvas some opinions...
What sort of price premium would people expect to pay for a Turbo S compared to a 'standard' 2005 Turbo (i.e. similar mileage and spec but without PCCB's and X50)?
Then the million dollar question... what do people think the future holds for 996 Turbo S's in terms of values? Will these fair the same/better/worse than their counterparts and are they likely to be hammered on price over the next couple of years?
Any comments/opinions much appreciated.
What sort of price premium would people expect to pay for a Turbo S compared to a 'standard' 2005 Turbo (i.e. similar mileage and spec but without PCCB's and X50)?
Then the million dollar question... what do people think the future holds for 996 Turbo S's in terms of values? Will these fair the same/better/worse than their counterparts and are they likely to be hammered on price over the next couple of years?
Any comments/opinions much appreciated.
Guys, quick question, the 993 turbo S was the end of the run limited edition if I remember correctly with GT2 turbos.
Was the 996 turbo S the end of run 996 turbo with effectively an X50 kit fitted ? only I keep seeing X50 cars advertised as a Turbo S which I thought was wrong no ?
Regards
Was the 996 turbo S the end of run 996 turbo with effectively an X50 kit fitted ? only I keep seeing X50 cars advertised as a Turbo S which I thought was wrong no ?
Regards
adsltd said:
I gues my original question could be changed to how much of a premium would you expect to pay for X50 and PCCB's when buying a 2005 996 Turbo.
I don't think it would exist - why would anyone spec a turbo in 2005 with X50 and PCCB and not buy an S instead?.The Turbo S should also be noted for its rarity only c600 coupes imported so will command a (my guess) £3-8K (based on condition) premium over a standard Turbo.
g7jhp said:
markcoznottz said:
I think the 996 'turbo' badge comes with the 'S', so a few cars have it on thier rump even if they arent.
I have a 996 turbo s coupe and feel the need to clarify. I had dozens of porsches before and currently a 993 c2s running alongside. Prior to the turbo s, I had a vanilla turbo. Before that a 996 gt3 mk2. Before that a 964rs.
I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
Did not stay for sale very long.. And for a reason..
Great buy for whoever was quick enough to get it.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3243430.htm
Great buy for whoever was quick enough to get it.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3243430.htm
GT3RS said:
I saw a lovely 996 turbo s at JZM last week, not sure if it's still there but worth a look it had low miles and looked like new.
markcoznottz said:
g7jhp said:
markcoznottz said:
I think the 996 'turbo' badge comes with the 'S', so a few cars have it on thier rump even if they arent.
(compare the alignment with the 3rd brake light)
It is very rare that someone adding an 'S' badge will go to the bother of removing and replacing the turbo badge at the same time.
adsltd said:
What sort of price premium would people expect to pay for a Turbo S compared to a 'standard' 2005 Turbo (i.e. similar mileage and spec but without PCCB's and X50)?
Additional 10%adsltd said:
Then the million dollar question... what do people think the future holds for 996 Turbo S's in terms of values? Will these fair the same/better/worse than their counterparts and are they likely to be hammered on price over the next couple of years?
Any comments/opinions much appreciated.
My guesses: Any comments/opinions much appreciated.
1. 996s across the board will continue to drop, because the economy at the moment means there is a shrinking market of people who can both afford to buy them and run them, and who want to.
2. Within that overall trend, a 996 Turbo S will maintain a 10% or so premium over a similarly spec'd 996 Turbo.
3. If/when the economy stabilises (I'm not going to say picks up, as that may be a way off) I'd expect to see 996 prices stabilise, and possibly start to pick up. Certainly now a 996TT at sub 30k seems an awful lot of value for the money. If the buyers' side of the market recovers, I could see good examples clawing back some value.
In other news, I'm prepared to have a guess at this week's lottery numbers, if you're interested...
erics said:
I have a 996 turbo s coupe and feel the need to clarify. I had dozens of porsches before and currently a 993 c2s running alongside. Prior to the turbo s, I had a vanilla turbo. Before that a 996 gt3 mk2. Before that a 964rs.
I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
Which options does you car have?. By that i mean suspension options.I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
markcoznottz said:
erics said:
I have a 996 turbo s coupe and feel the need to clarify. I had dozens of porsches before and currently a 993 c2s running alongside. Prior to the turbo s, I had a vanilla turbo. Before that a 996 gt3 mk2. Before that a 964rs.
I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
Which options does you car have?. By that i mean suspension options.I was hesitating btwn gt2 and f430 before I got the turbo s. So what happened??
I drove one. A manual car of course. I had driven various gt2s before and was not 100% on them. I thought they were a little too uncompromised like my gt3 was. Albeit a smidge more road worthy than the gt3.
The turbo s I bought had the factory sport chassis and combined to the pccb breaks made a huge difference when compared to the regular turbo. The latter felt quite heavy footed at times. The turbo s felt a lot lighter, a lot more balletic.
It felt a lot closer to the gt2 in terms of overall experience than to the regular turbo.
I found a 17k miles car with the sport chassis from factory and virtually every bit of carbon fiber that could be ordered at the time. Cost me 8k to upgrade from a verry similar turbo.
There are 600 turbo s coupe wot wide of which many are tiptrnic cars. Meaning there are not that many on uk roads. I think there are about 800 turbo s cabs... I think about 22000 regular turbos were built.
Of course, people will argue that the 996 turbo s vs turbo is less interesting than 993 turbo s vs turbo. Rightly so as the 993 turbo s had special factory body kits and special engine and special interior and very bright wheels..
Mind you the 993 turbo s costs twice as much as a stunning 993 turbo!
Still, to my eyes and having owned the 996 turbo s for a while now, I really feel like I own a special car. It is extremely difficult to find a good one in the classifieds. I never feel annoyed by an uncompromising car, it is happy on the open road or in town. It really is car you can live with all the time.
Will be worth a lot of money?? I don't know and I don't care. All I know is that I love it. It is, for me, the best Porsche I have ever owned. My previous turbo was remapped and I was planning to have the same done to this one. Well... This is going to have to wait because it is shockingly fast as it is.
The sport suspension makes a massive difference, it is much better controlled than the standard car.
My view is: be patient, find a nice manual coupe (non body kit!) with a few nice options and you will be very very happy.
ok, bit of delay, but here we go, the list of options on my turbo S goes as follows:
C16 xcz xkd xkj xkp xmj xnr xnx xpd xpy xtl xj4 x47 x54 x58 00051 00101 00501
I have no idea what most of them stand for but would gladly hear what they mean..
I suspect a lot of them have to do with the carbon fiber bits inside.
C16 xcz xkd xkj xkp xmj xnr xnx xpd xpy xtl xj4 x47 x54 x58 00051 00101 00501
I have no idea what most of them stand for but would gladly hear what they mean..
I suspect a lot of them have to do with the carbon fiber bits inside.
erics said:
ok, bit of delay, but here we go, the list of options on my turbo S goes as follows:
C16 xcz xkd xkj xkp xmj xnr xnx xpd xpy xtl xj4 x47 x54 x58 00051 00101 00501
I have no idea what most of them stand for but would gladly hear what they mean..
I suspect a lot of them have to do with the carbon fiber bits inside.
IXCZ = switch travel shorteningC16 xcz xkd xkj xkp xmj xnr xnx xpd xpy xtl xj4 x47 x54 x58 00051 00101 00501
I have no idea what most of them stand for but would gladly hear what they mean..
I suspect a lot of them have to do with the carbon fiber bits inside.
IXKD = Side air vents in carbon
IXKJ = Defroster trim in carbon and leather
IXKP = Carbon speaker covers
IXMJ = Rear section of centre console in carbon
IXNR = Carbon centre air vent bracket
IXNX = Carbon trim strip (dashboard)
IXPD = 3 spoke steering wheel carbon/leather
IXPY = Carbon instrument surround
IXTL = Door features in carbon
IXJ4 = Leather cover for ignition lock surround
IX47 = Gear lever knob in carbon leather
IX54 = Stainless steel tail pipes
IX58 = Hand brake lever in carbon/leather
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