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So has the 930 had its day then?
Judging by this i am glad i sold mine when i did at nearly double the price!
This looks a bargain to me, it could be a money pit obviously but looks good to me.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3299042.htm
Judging by this i am glad i sold mine when i did at nearly double the price!
This looks a bargain to me, it could be a money pit obviously but looks good to me.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3299042.htm
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
ClassicCarMad said:
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
But you're classic car mad. How could you not prefer this to a 996? Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
I think this 930 looks amazing. Great colour.
ClassicCarMad said:
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
You've changed your tune, not long ago you were one of the 930 fan boys, along with several others who were spouting balls about the pre-89 911 Turbo.Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
"Utter twoddle and all your points subjective.
1) The 930 is very popular with real enthusiasts of the marque.
2) Probably the most iconic 911 made
3) Once you are used to the driving style, you can make serious progress
4) You must have found all old air-cooled 911's small inside then
5) Doubt many takers will be interested in taking their 930's shopping
6) Modern 911's such as the 997 are certainly not everybodies cup of tea."
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Manks said:
ClassicCarMad said:
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
You've changed your tune, not long ago you were one of the 930 fan boys, along with several others who were spouting balls about the pre-89 911 Turbo.Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
"Utter twoddle and all your points subjective.
1) The 930 is very popular with real enthusiasts of the marque.
2) Probably the most iconic 911 made
3) Once you are used to the driving style, you can make serious progress
4) You must have found all old air-cooled 911's small inside then
5) Doubt many takers will be interested in taking their 930's shopping
6) Modern 911's such as the 997 are certainly not everybodies cup of tea."
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Will always be a fan and yes they are iconic, overpriced? maybe........
Well there has been a lot of internet hype etc and i guess some owners will have cashed in on this so fair play to them.
But the prices will be under pressure given whats available now.
Well said Manks!
It's funny how a few key people on here seem to be able to talk the market up or down depending on what they own at a given point.
Genuinely no offence to you Crimpy and I'm not actually thinking just of you here.
We all know our cars strengths and weaknesses but it bugs me a bit when people come on here heaping praise on what they own, only to start slating it once they've sold it for top dollar.
I'll be interested in your true thoughts on the GT2 once it's gone. I'm not saying you don't think it's great but I bet you have other thoughts on it that will emerge once it's gone.
As I say, no offence. You're a good contributor on here and have great taste in Pork but you must admit your comments have changed a lot with regards to the 930 since pedalling it.
It's funny how a few key people on here seem to be able to talk the market up or down depending on what they own at a given point.
Genuinely no offence to you Crimpy and I'm not actually thinking just of you here.
We all know our cars strengths and weaknesses but it bugs me a bit when people come on here heaping praise on what they own, only to start slating it once they've sold it for top dollar.
I'll be interested in your true thoughts on the GT2 once it's gone. I'm not saying you don't think it's great but I bet you have other thoughts on it that will emerge once it's gone.
As I say, no offence. You're a good contributor on here and have great taste in Pork but you must admit your comments have changed a lot with regards to the 930 since pedalling it.
It's priced about right IMO.
It's a 4 speeder (syncro+rebuild about £3-5k), they are nice to drive but difficult to drive well.
Considering for the past few years there has been a major (MAJOR) recession, that we're staring down the barrel of a full blown depression, fuel and tax have never been higher and the roads are full of idiots with speed cameras - I'd say their prices are holding up pretty well
The very expensive cars are still gaining value because they are in the price segment of the elite bankers and politicians, but these are enthusiasts cars - and enthusiasts still have to eat too.
Having said that, these cars can be fairly cheap on tyres and brakes etc - no 19" rims on these
It's a 4 speeder (syncro+rebuild about £3-5k), they are nice to drive but difficult to drive well.
Considering for the past few years there has been a major (MAJOR) recession, that we're staring down the barrel of a full blown depression, fuel and tax have never been higher and the roads are full of idiots with speed cameras - I'd say their prices are holding up pretty well
The very expensive cars are still gaining value because they are in the price segment of the elite bankers and politicians, but these are enthusiasts cars - and enthusiasts still have to eat too.
Having said that, these cars can be fairly cheap on tyres and brakes etc - no 19" rims on these
marky911 said:
Well said Manks!
It's funny how a few key people on here seem to be able to talk the market up or down depending on what they own at a given point.
Genuinely no offence to you Crimpy and I'm not actually thinking just of you here.
We all know our cars strengths and weaknesses but it bugs me a bit when people come on here heaping praise on what they own, only to start slating it once they've sold it for top dollar.
I'll be interested in your true thoughts on the GT2 once it's gone. I'm not saying you don't think it's great but I bet you have other thoughts on it that will emerge once it's gone.
As I say, no offence. You're a good contributor on here and have great taste in Pork but you must admit your comments have changed a lot with regards to the 930 since pedalling it.
No offence taken matey.It's funny how a few key people on here seem to be able to talk the market up or down depending on what they own at a given point.
Genuinely no offence to you Crimpy and I'm not actually thinking just of you here.
We all know our cars strengths and weaknesses but it bugs me a bit when people come on here heaping praise on what they own, only to start slating it once they've sold it for top dollar.
I'll be interested in your true thoughts on the GT2 once it's gone. I'm not saying you don't think it's great but I bet you have other thoughts on it that will emerge once it's gone.
As I say, no offence. You're a good contributor on here and have great taste in Pork but you must admit your comments have changed a lot with regards to the 930 since pedalling it.
I wasn't trying to say anything significant, i would never slag off a classic 911 of any ilk, i was merely passing judgement on the pricing,and i am certainly not biased towards the variant i own at the time i am a genuine enthusiast, people who know me will vouch for that.
My comments havent changed really either the cars are iconic and represent the true 80's brash era of look at me......i was merely trying to understand why it was so cheap and the "had its day comment" was just a fly away comment based on the silly price.
Trust me if i had the space this would have been purchased, as they are lovely things, the one thing i will say though is they are not the best drivers cars, for the average joe driver such as me.
Globs said:
It's priced about right IMO.
It's a 4 speeder (syncro+rebuild about £3-5k), they are nice to drive but difficult to drive well.
Considering for the past few years there has been a major (MAJOR) recession, that we're staring down the barrel of a full blown depression, fuel and tax have never been higher and the roads are full of idiots with speed cameras - I'd say their prices are holding up pretty well
The very expensive cars are still gaining value because they are in the price segment of the elite bankers and politicians, but these are enthusiasts cars - and enthusiasts still have to eat too.
Having said that, these cars can be fairly cheap on tyres and brakes etc - no 19" rims on these
Bloody depressing watching the news and reading the papers and yes scameras on top of it, but we have to keep smiling working hard paying the bills and enjoying our 911's, whatever size the rims.It's a 4 speeder (syncro+rebuild about £3-5k), they are nice to drive but difficult to drive well.
Considering for the past few years there has been a major (MAJOR) recession, that we're staring down the barrel of a full blown depression, fuel and tax have never been higher and the roads are full of idiots with speed cameras - I'd say their prices are holding up pretty well
The very expensive cars are still gaining value because they are in the price segment of the elite bankers and politicians, but these are enthusiasts cars - and enthusiasts still have to eat too.
Having said that, these cars can be fairly cheap on tyres and brakes etc - no 19" rims on these
Fair-do mate, I'd just noticed a change from "all good" to "not great", in your posts but I know it's not until you get something new that the flaws in the old, become more apparent.
I agree about the 930s looks outweighing its handling but ultimate handling isn't why people buy 'em, as you know. I'd say the same for the 964T to a degree although it is much improved in the braking and suspension department.
Anyway, cheers for not taking those comments as me nit-picking. I have a rule of only posting if I have something useful or pleasant to say. I nearly always stick to it.
Like I say you know your Pork and put your money where your mouth is with regard to ownership so your comments are always welcomed and give good insight.
It's fair to say your car history contains models on most peoples wish list, so hats off to you.
I'll leave it there though eh? It's all sounding a bit lovey dovey! I don't want to ruffle any feathers with that Err Indoors fella.
You keep enjoying that GT2. I'll be interested to see what you move to after that.
I agree about the 930s looks outweighing its handling but ultimate handling isn't why people buy 'em, as you know. I'd say the same for the 964T to a degree although it is much improved in the braking and suspension department.
Anyway, cheers for not taking those comments as me nit-picking. I have a rule of only posting if I have something useful or pleasant to say. I nearly always stick to it.
Like I say you know your Pork and put your money where your mouth is with regard to ownership so your comments are always welcomed and give good insight.
It's fair to say your car history contains models on most peoples wish list, so hats off to you.
I'll leave it there though eh? It's all sounding a bit lovey dovey! I don't want to ruffle any feathers with that Err Indoors fella.
You keep enjoying that GT2. I'll be interested to see what you move to after that.
marky911 said:
It is quite well priced if it's good. Although I think there are more desirable colours out there, imho.
Only about 15 miles from me this place but I think they're fairly new as I've never heard of them.
OT - I didn't realize those M5 V10s were so cheap now. £18999 they want.
You can also pick up good Noble M12s for 20k now.. These days you get a lot of choice of some sweet metal at that priceOnly about 15 miles from me this place but I think they're fairly new as I've never heard of them.
OT - I didn't realize those M5 V10s were so cheap now. £18999 they want.
Seen this car quite a few times recently but can't remember its condition. It does seem cheap though.
I find the description a little on the numpty side though, never heard of a 930 being refered to as a 911 FI and the advert states that that it has a body kit, which it doesn't.
Maybe cars are cheaper in Gateshead?
I find the description a little on the numpty side though, never heard of a 930 being refered to as a 911 FI and the advert states that that it has a body kit, which it doesn't.
Maybe cars are cheaper in Gateshead?
ClassicCarMad said:
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
How can you compare a 930 to a 996?Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
Its like saying a Mondeo is better value and a more capable car than a Mk3 Cortina
porkey said:
ClassicCarMad said:
Always be iconic but limited audience and not that fun to drive really heavy and on and off power which okay it maybe 300 bhp but not that quick, alright i may get flamed on here as the bottom line its a classic so speed isn't an issue, but they are not rewarding.
Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
How can you compare a 930 to a 996?Look superb though.
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
Its like saying a Mondeo is better value and a more capable car than a Mk3 Cortina
marky911 said:
Fair-do mate, I'd just noticed a change from "all good" to "not great", in your posts but I know it's not until you get something new that the flaws in the old, become more apparent.
I agree about the 930s looks outweighing its handling but ultimate handling isn't why people buy 'em, as you know. I'd say the same for the 964T to a degree although it is much improved in the braking and suspension department.
Anyway, cheers for not taking those comments as me nit-picking. I have a rule of only posting if I have something useful or pleasant to say. I nearly always stick to it.
Like I say you know your Pork and put your money where your mouth is with regard to ownership so your comments are always welcomed and give good insight.
It's fair to say your car history contains models on most peoples wish list, so hats off to you.
I'll leave it there though eh? It's all sounding a bit lovey dovey! I don't want to ruffle any feathers with that Err Indoors fella.
You keep enjoying that GT2. I'll be interested to see what you move to after that.
To get into anything better than the GT2 would take a vast amount of mular mate, and i don't see the point if i'm honest as they don't get used enough. I have always tried to buy carefully and the right model so that i don't lose me shirt on them (bottom line is i'm a tight Yorkshire tw*t)I agree about the 930s looks outweighing its handling but ultimate handling isn't why people buy 'em, as you know. I'd say the same for the 964T to a degree although it is much improved in the braking and suspension department.
Anyway, cheers for not taking those comments as me nit-picking. I have a rule of only posting if I have something useful or pleasant to say. I nearly always stick to it.
Like I say you know your Pork and put your money where your mouth is with regard to ownership so your comments are always welcomed and give good insight.
It's fair to say your car history contains models on most peoples wish list, so hats off to you.
I'll leave it there though eh? It's all sounding a bit lovey dovey! I don't want to ruffle any feathers with that Err Indoors fella.
You keep enjoying that GT2. I'll be interested to see what you move to after that.
I would love a nice 2.4s 1973 911, but big money i'm afraid, then again on the other extreme i like the 997 GT3.
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I think he was referring more to the value fella rather than out and out ability and technology, to be honest.
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Thats exactly what he said isn't it?
You also have to take into serious consideration that you can get a superior car in all aspects in the 996 turbo (okay might be a bit leggy) for similar money to this.
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I think he was referring more to the value fella rather than out and out ability and technology, to be honest.
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Thats exactly what he said isn't it?
Edited by porkey on Thursday 6th October 14:48
Crimp a Length! said:
I would love a nice 2.4s 1973 911, but big money i'm afraid
How about a 2.4T with an uprated engine? Much cheaper and would amount to being the same car. Possibly a 2.4E too, but they're quite pricey now too in their own right. You would hardly tell the difference between an E and S engined car today, overall condition would be a much bigger variable. Plus you could always tweak the engine a fair bit with the money saved. Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff