Anybody got away supplying service parts as well as oil @OPC
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I found out a few years ago that I could supply my own mobil 1 and save money off my servicing costs at my local OPC but never considered supplying all the filters,plugs etc because I didn't know if it's possible or not so my question is has anybody done it and did they still smile and stamp your book?
I'm thinking of getting genuine parts through a Internet dealer.
Andy.
I'm thinking of getting genuine parts through a Internet dealer.
Andy.
being a bit flippant here but isn't this a bit like going to a top restaurant and say hi, bought my own steak with me to save money?
Don't know what you all do for a living but margins are built in and we all have to make money. I would imagine they would say just because they look genuine they can't guarantee it... could be a Porsche equiv of a fake handbag!
Or if you enjoy internet shopping you can just buy a service stamp...
Don't know what you all do for a living but margins are built in and we all have to make money. I would imagine they would say just because they look genuine they can't guarantee it... could be a Porsche equiv of a fake handbag!
Or if you enjoy internet shopping you can just buy a service stamp...
andyrno1 said:
Supplying my own oil saved £90 last time.
The OPC gentlemans club seem to stick to list prices to make the most out of your visits.
If I save £90 or more on servicing it appeals to my sense of fair play as I only use the car 1k a year.
Andy.
Andy, how did supplying your own oil save you £90 - since I own an indy I know exactly how much Porsche get their oil for, how much we buy from then, and how much we charge and I just cannot see how you have saved £90 - we don't even charge that amount.The OPC gentlemans club seem to stick to list prices to make the most out of your visits.
If I save £90 or more on servicing it appeals to my sense of fair play as I only use the car 1k a year.
Andy.
Ken
Only gets used if the suns shining,only sees the rain if unavoidable driving home and garaged from November to march each year.
Never goes out once the Gritters are in action.
I'm too busy outside of rare moments to take it out of the garage and if it's waxed up and looking great I wouldn't take it out for a quickie to risk getting it dirty so there you have it-I'm a anal retard.
This feels like a confessional moment!
Never goes out once the Gritters are in action.
I'm too busy outside of rare moments to take it out of the garage and if it's waxed up and looking great I wouldn't take it out for a quickie to risk getting it dirty so there you have it-I'm a anal retard.
This feels like a confessional moment!
andyrno1 said:
Only gets used if the suns shining,only sees the rain if unavoidable driving home and garaged from November to march each year.
Never goes out once the Gritters are in action.
I'm too busy outside of rare moments to take it out of the garage and if it's waxed up and looking great I wouldn't take it out for a quickie to risk getting it dirty so there you have it-I'm a anal retard.
This feels like a confessional moment!
Jeez, I thought I was bad doing 4kpa in a 993! I am forever beating myself up over it as I know I should enjoy it more.Never goes out once the Gritters are in action.
I'm too busy outside of rare moments to take it out of the garage and if it's waxed up and looking great I wouldn't take it out for a quickie to risk getting it dirty so there you have it-I'm a anal retard.
This feels like a confessional moment!
MTR
Last time I recall them mentioning the cost it was £13 a litre plus vat so 8 litres was £104 plus vat or £124.80 to me.
Alright I'm a bit out but I get 10 litres from a mate cheap and now have worked out it saves £84.00 off the above but that was OPC oil prices quoted 3-4 years ago so OPC cost maybe higher now?
Andy.
Alright I'm a bit out but I get 10 litres from a mate cheap and now have worked out it saves £84.00 off the above but that was OPC oil prices quoted 3-4 years ago so OPC cost maybe higher now?
Andy.
andyrno1 said:
I found out a few years ago that I could supply my own mobil 1 and save money off my servicing costs at my local OPC but never considered supplying all the filters,plugs etc because I didn't know if it's possible or not so my question is has anybody done it and did they still smile and stamp your book?
I'm thinking of getting genuine parts through a Internet dealer.
Andy.
I do not know the warranty rules where you are but here if the dealer doesn't supply the parts it does not warranty the part. The parts have to be bought from PCNA (Porsche Cars North America) and through an authorized dealer. Thus if you supply an oil filter element that fails and takes out the engine... you could be out of luck.I'm thinking of getting genuine parts through a Internet dealer.
Andy.
Besides my experience is some indy's and mail order firms selling Porsche oil filter elements do not appear to be selling genuine Porsche oil filter elements. The filters have a different look and while I've not experienced this myself some have reported the filters are quite different in not only looks but in dimensions when compared to the oil filter element bought from the dealer's parts department.
An indy/mail order filter element imho is not that much less money and frankly not worth the trouble/risk.
As for oil... I have been supplying my own oil because at one point the dealer markup on oil was quite high. Also, I wanted to run Mobil 1 5w-50 oil.
But just the other day I went to buy some oil from a local/nearby Mobil oil distributor and paid $8.01/quart for Mobil 1 0w-40 oil. (My usual Mobil 1 5w-50 oil I was told is no longer stocked and is a special order and a week or so is required for it to come in.)
Anyhow, it is ok to run 0w-40 throgh the winter here and in fact I may just stick with this come summer.
So, I dropped the car and the oil off at the dealer. I picked up the car and the service manager mentioned that the dealer has recently had a change of heart and has dropped the markup on oil (Mobil 1 0w-40 oil) down to where the oil is now cheaper by a $1 or so per quart at the dealer than it is at the oil distributor.
So, in the future I'm going to have the dealer supply the oil as well.
Oh, I get a discount because I'm a PCA (Porsche Club of America) member. IIRC there's a Porsche Club of Great Britain and members may get a discount on parts/supplies.
Sincerely,
Rockster.
If you keep your eyes peeled sometimes you find mobil 1 dead cheap. I had a big stash before the 'funfair' was in town and everyone's sheds/garages got ransacked.
However the point remains you can save enough for you and the bird to have a lovely meal out each service time owing to really greedy markups on oil.
Other service items are a false economy IMHO because a)you'll not save much and b)if something breaks, the warraty claim will be a bunfight between the OPC and the parts supplier who'll each be blaming the other.
Better to let the OPC supply and fit all the bits so they can accept responsibility should the unthinkable happen.
Oil from sealed containers is fine, they won't use it if they aren't sure of its quality.
SM
However the point remains you can save enough for you and the bird to have a lovely meal out each service time owing to really greedy markups on oil.
Other service items are a false economy IMHO because a)you'll not save much and b)if something breaks, the warraty claim will be a bunfight between the OPC and the parts supplier who'll each be blaming the other.
Better to let the OPC supply and fit all the bits so they can accept responsibility should the unthinkable happen.
Oil from sealed containers is fine, they won't use it if they aren't sure of its quality.
SM
Baylon said:
What are people paying for Mobil 1 at the moment? The cheapest I have found is Opie Oils for just under £80 for 10 litres (OPC want £117).
I bought Asda out of loads about 18 months back, 15 quid a 5 litre pack. Previously to that I got tons from France for IIRC 32 euros (25 quid?) for 6 litres (5+1 bonus) but the theiving 
scum stole those.SM
Costco have Mobil 1 in at £20 +Vat for 4 litres.
OPC last time I checked charge £13.50/L plus vat, so for 9 litres =£145
12 litres at costco comes in at just under half price.
I've only ever serviced twice at the OPC, and on both occasions they were happy to use my oil. I realise that they may build in their profit margins into the oil, but £130/hr should be more than enough to cover their costs and make a decent profit.
On both occasions, I contacted a couple of indie's, who both said it wasn't something that they often do. They both quoted virtually the same as the OPC, because they claimed that they were selling the oil at something like £6/l.
OPC last time I checked charge £13.50/L plus vat, so for 9 litres =£145
12 litres at costco comes in at just under half price.
I've only ever serviced twice at the OPC, and on both occasions they were happy to use my oil. I realise that they may build in their profit margins into the oil, but £130/hr should be more than enough to cover their costs and make a decent profit.
On both occasions, I contacted a couple of indie's, who both said it wasn't something that they often do. They both quoted virtually the same as the OPC, because they claimed that they were selling the oil at something like £6/l.
Pickled Piper said:
as above.
I find it far more satisfying to negotiate a deal than spend my time buying oil and other bits.
pp
If you pick up the oil when you see it there's no time. But I guess you rich types can float above all that.I find it far more satisfying to negotiate a deal than spend my time buying oil and other bits.
pp
My next service is April, I'll cheers you with the nice bottle of red I'll get with my free meal and curse that I missed out on some negotiating.
SM
Pickled Piper said:
as above.
I find it far more satisfying to negotiate a deal than spend my time buying oil and other bits.
pp
Nothing to stop you negotiating on the cost of the work and supplying your own oil.I find it far more satisfying to negotiate a deal than spend my time buying oil and other bits.
pp
Mobil1 is so much cheaper in Costco than the OPCs charge you for it. I just pick up a couple of bottles when I do a Costco run and store them away for service time. Last time I bought some it was about £28 (including VAT) for 5 litres. So 10 litres (more than enough for a service) for around £56. When I had quotes for a major service last year, the quotes from different OPCs for supplying my own oil included savings ranging from £100 to as much as a £145 saving over their original quote with their oil! It would be crazy to pay them that sort of mark-up for the same oil IMO.
Edited by ChipsAndCheese on Thursday 13th October 11:18
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