Cayman S with 83K miles
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having been fed up with loosing tons of money on cars I am now concidering older cars that have lost a lot of their deprciation already
Therefore this Cayman S got my attention, good spec for £16950 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3320741.htm
Viable option or leave alone
Therefore this Cayman S got my attention, good spec for £16950 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3320741.htm
Viable option or leave alone
Make sure you get a warranty that covers the engine and gearbox. Cylinder bores are prone to scoring from the pistons and oval bores are not uncommon. A rebuild is frightening money (I know I've just had to have one done at 28k miles - about £10k + VAT). If it puffs blue smoke at start up from cold walk away unless you can get the bores inspected with a borescope.
Petrolhead said:
Viable option or leave alone
It is impossible for anyone on here to advise without it being inspected.I wouldnt dicsount because of the mileage or price. Just go in with your eyes open and get that engine properly checked.
If it all checks out good (if), then its a bargain for a weekender.
MTR
Even with the high mileage that seems to be a very good price, maybe a little too good considering the high specification
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Would definitely get the following checks done:
- Tyre wear (new set not exactly cheap)
- Brake, Clutch & Gearbox life remaining
- Exhaust looks strange as mentioned and black from the images (could be early signs of scoring)
- does the car have any after market non OPC approved extras (if it has would be difficult to get an OPC warranty and other than Hartech most of the other warranties out there are not as good (so i have heard))
- Have one of them DME scans done (part of the 111 point check), to make sure car has not exceeded reve range 3 which could inevitably lead to engine problems
thats my 2cents, with a price like that from a dealer i would ask many questions as the mileage alone does not dictate that price in the current market
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Would definitely get the following checks done:
- Tyre wear (new set not exactly cheap)
- Brake, Clutch & Gearbox life remaining
- Exhaust looks strange as mentioned and black from the images (could be early signs of scoring)
- does the car have any after market non OPC approved extras (if it has would be difficult to get an OPC warranty and other than Hartech most of the other warranties out there are not as good (so i have heard))
- Have one of them DME scans done (part of the 111 point check), to make sure car has not exceeded reve range 3 which could inevitably lead to engine problems
thats my 2cents, with a price like that from a dealer i would ask many questions as the mileage alone does not dictate that price in the current market
I emailed the dealer and got this reply:
[i]The last service was done on 11/1/11 at 82079 miles by a Porsche specialist. The other three services were done by main dealers at Reading and Cambridge. Today we have sent the car for another service and an MOT.
The car does have the Sports seats and they are heated.
The car is in great condition with no major dents, scratches or scuffs.
As we are a small business, we are currently not regulated to provide any insurance based warranty, but we are open to any form of inspection that you would like. We also MOT our cars early to make sure that you receive the car with confidence that it ha recently been inspected [/i] Why are the italics not working?
I will ask about the exhaust and tyres
[i]The last service was done on 11/1/11 at 82079 miles by a Porsche specialist. The other three services were done by main dealers at Reading and Cambridge. Today we have sent the car for another service and an MOT.
The car does have the Sports seats and they are heated.
The car is in great condition with no major dents, scratches or scuffs.
As we are a small business, we are currently not regulated to provide any insurance based warranty, but we are open to any form of inspection that you would like. We also MOT our cars early to make sure that you receive the car with confidence that it ha recently been inspected [/i] Why are the italics not working?
I will ask about the exhaust and tyres
Edited by Petrolhead on Thursday 13th October 18:55
So far he says the exhaust is dirty and he is going to clean it up and send a photo, however that could be a good excuse for me to but something intereting 
The tyres all have 5mm tread
He also sent the origional order for the car which amounted to just under £50K!!! It also has full leather option
The tyres all have 5mm tread
He also sent the origional order for the car which amounted to just under £50K!!! It also has full leather option
PistonBloke said:
Make sure you get a warranty that covers the engine and gearbox. Cylinder bores are prone to scoring from the pistons and oval bores are not uncommon. A rebuild is frightening money (I know I've just had to have one done at 28k miles - about £10k + VAT). If it puffs blue smoke at start up from cold walk away unless you can get the bores inspected with a borescope.
Sorry to hear about the rebuild. Can I ask what was wrong with your engine and was it an OPC repair or specialist like Hartech?Always interesting to hear from someone who's been through it, rather than the neigh sayers!
Go for it! ... apparently its circa 4k for an engine rebuild.... worse case scenario......
Know what you mean about the depreciation and money trickling away...... My new strategy
is not even enquire about current book price for my car or wonder how much its worth... just
get in it and enjoy it...... I'll worry about the money the day I trade it in.....!
Know what you mean about the depreciation and money trickling away...... My new strategy
is not even enquire about current book price for my car or wonder how much its worth... just
get in it and enjoy it...... I'll worry about the money the day I trade it in.....!
Durzel said:
Aren't traders obliged to provide a minimum 3 month warranty? (genuine question)
Common mis-conception - dealer's are not obliged to offer any form of warranty whatsoever. However, should a buyer report a fault within the first 6 months the onus is on the dealer to prove the fault wasn't there when the car was supplied (this is pretty obvious one way or the other for most faults).The car does look nice but I don't think the price is anything outstanding - we have a similar, newer one with under half the mileage for £21,990 including a warranty.
thegoose said:
The car does look nice but I don't think the price is anything outstanding - we have a similar, newer one with under half the mileage for £21,990 including a warranty.
However it is £5k more. I based my search on up to £20k MAX. If I went up to £22K then there is also more choiceForzaWhitesGen2 said:
Go for it! ... apparently its circa 4k for an engine rebuild.... worse case scenario......
Know what you mean about the depreciation and money trickling away...... My new strategy
is not even enquire about current book price for my car or wonder how much its worth... just
get in it and enjoy it...... I'll worry about the money the day I trade it in.....!
More like a minimum of £6k and probably more.Know what you mean about the depreciation and money trickling away...... My new strategy
is not even enquire about current book price for my car or wonder how much its worth... just
get in it and enjoy it...... I'll worry about the money the day I trade it in.....!
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