7.1 GT3 to Cayman R - Did you - Would you - Should you?
Discussion
Due to the generally unpopular nature of my car with those closest to me, (looks chavvy, too noisy, too harsh/uncomfortable, can't drive it with that clutch gearbox.... etc etc etc) resulting in only 300 of the 3,500 miles driven this past year having had a passenger on board, I am merely perusing the possibility of making the above move.
Has anyone on here had any direct experience of doing so (even if other cars filled the transition, but the memory is still fresh) and is it a big mistake or not?
I have a 24 hr test drive arranged, so obviously all will be revealed then, but the opinion of the PH massive is always of interest!
Only fixed things for me are I would want a rather dull colour (grey or one of the 2 silvers), the standard Spyder wheels and bucket seats, if I find them comfortable (the seats not the wheels), xenons, AC, sports exhaust, reversing sensors (I just can't park the GT3), ipod/iphone connection and Bluetooth link and again, should I find it acceptable, the dopplekerplunkenhowsen gearbox, so that 'er indoors can drive it when I pinch the 4x4.
I am being told the only way to get a good deal at the moment is to take one of the existing new stock that hopefully fits my rough spec (I don't generally like to buy new cars) - but that alone leads me to think I am going to be hammered on depreciation in comparison to the GT3 over the next few years? I think the above lot comes to around £59k and that is without any niceties like leather dash and alcantara roof lining etc.
Bit of a (nice) dilemma as I love driving my car, but all too often it gets overlooked and left in the garage.
What do you guys think?
Has anyone on here had any direct experience of doing so (even if other cars filled the transition, but the memory is still fresh) and is it a big mistake or not?
I have a 24 hr test drive arranged, so obviously all will be revealed then, but the opinion of the PH massive is always of interest!
Only fixed things for me are I would want a rather dull colour (grey or one of the 2 silvers), the standard Spyder wheels and bucket seats, if I find them comfortable (the seats not the wheels), xenons, AC, sports exhaust, reversing sensors (I just can't park the GT3), ipod/iphone connection and Bluetooth link and again, should I find it acceptable, the dopplekerplunkenhowsen gearbox, so that 'er indoors can drive it when I pinch the 4x4.
I am being told the only way to get a good deal at the moment is to take one of the existing new stock that hopefully fits my rough spec (I don't generally like to buy new cars) - but that alone leads me to think I am going to be hammered on depreciation in comparison to the GT3 over the next few years? I think the above lot comes to around £59k and that is without any niceties like leather dash and alcantara roof lining etc.
Bit of a (nice) dilemma as I love driving my car, but all too often it gets overlooked and left in the garage.
What do you guys think?
I think you'll be dissapointed.
Cayman R is a great car, but GT3 is a different beast entirely imo.
I also don't think as a point of principal that you should give up something you enjoy (by your own admission) on the strength of other peoples viewpoints. You're a long time dead, unless it's going to cause a rift in your life with your missus or whatever I'd be inclined to tell everyone else where to go.
Just my (somewhat unhelpful) 2p.
Cayman R is a great car, but GT3 is a different beast entirely imo.
I also don't think as a point of principal that you should give up something you enjoy (by your own admission) on the strength of other peoples viewpoints. You're a long time dead, unless it's going to cause a rift in your life with your missus or whatever I'd be inclined to tell everyone else where to go.
Just my (somewhat unhelpful) 2p.
I run a 7.2 GT3 as a daily drive (with PCCB to improve ride comfort) and tested a V6 class Cayman R race car (which is close to stock but for slicks, different a K&W set-up and the obivious cage etc.) on the Ring for a couple of hours.
Swapping a 3 for anything which is not yet another 3 is a BIG (did I say BIIIIG?) mistake. If you love your car you will be disappointed by the R. The latter is truly sublime but just too "normal". PDK is great on track as you can seamlessly up- and downshift whilst cornering but on the road I miss the interaction. My 3 feels much more like a race car than the V6 class Cayman R which actually is a race car.
AND: I don't see your issue. If only 300 miles were with a passenger then that's good news. You could spend the remaining 3200 miles driving it properly without someone complayning
Swapping a 3 for anything which is not yet another 3 is a BIG (did I say BIIIIG?) mistake. If you love your car you will be disappointed by the R. The latter is truly sublime but just too "normal". PDK is great on track as you can seamlessly up- and downshift whilst cornering but on the road I miss the interaction. My 3 feels much more like a race car than the V6 class Cayman R which actually is a race car.
AND: I don't see your issue. If only 300 miles were with a passenger then that's good news. You could spend the remaining 3200 miles driving it properly without someone complayning
Durzel said:
I also don't think as a point of principal that you should give up something you enjoy (by your own admission) on the strength of other peoples viewpoints. You're a long time dead, unless it's going to cause a rift in your life with your missus or whatever I'd be inclined to tell everyone else where to go.
Good point - may be cheaper in the long run to buy a little snotter runabout for those clashing days?Still have the test drive though.
I would have large parts of my anatomy removed to own a 997 GT3. Sounds like those closest to you should either be gently educated on the subject of cars, or should learn to respect your choices and accept you for who you are...
The Cayman R, though extemely desireable, cannot hold a candle to the 3.
The Cayman R, though extemely desireable, cannot hold a candle to the 3.
If you do not use it as the maker intended and it is causing friction then get rid.
There is a gentleman on here who said that in terms of pace, there was not much in it during normal road conditions between the '3 and a Boxster S.
You won't hear much said against the '3 on this forum, I would not swap myself, I would buy a ford focus and run both.
Callughan said:
Wow . GT3s really are the b
ks. OP you listening.Well,
having covered 6000miles in my 7.1GT3 since March and less than 200 with the Mrs on board, I thought that maybe something a little more suitable was required. I spoke to Mrs Bee about it. she said my car passion is what makes me and to keep it.
Thats one of the reasons I married her
The fact that she has a lovely 330d M-Sport probably has nothing to do with it lol
If you enjoy the car, then thats that. Your other half doesn't HAVE to be in it, providing she has something nice to use herself, which I'm sure she will.
Hope this helps!
Stevie
having covered 6000miles in my 7.1GT3 since March and less than 200 with the Mrs on board, I thought that maybe something a little more suitable was required. I spoke to Mrs Bee about it. she said my car passion is what makes me and to keep it.
Thats one of the reasons I married her
The fact that she has a lovely 330d M-Sport probably has nothing to do with it lol
If you enjoy the car, then thats that. Your other half doesn't HAVE to be in it, providing she has something nice to use herself, which I'm sure she will.
Hope this helps!
Stevie
It depends what you want from a car ...
As a day to day car the Cayman R is much better than a GT3 --- two boots, hatchback, firm but not crashy, smaller, better balanced, PDK (which is fantastic both in manual and "automatic"), and it puts on quite a performance on the track. In fact, accepted in the wet and on road tyres, all the GT3's at Cadwell Park last Tuesday could not hold a light to it ---
GT3's are legendary, but they are designed to excel on the track, and can also be thoroughly enjoyed on the road. But they can also be a handful on the track, where the Cayman is far more flattering (not to deceive )
The preference is merely a question of emphasis ....
As a day to day car the Cayman R is much better than a GT3 --- two boots, hatchback, firm but not crashy, smaller, better balanced, PDK (which is fantastic both in manual and "automatic"), and it puts on quite a performance on the track. In fact, accepted in the wet and on road tyres, all the GT3's at Cadwell Park last Tuesday could not hold a light to it ---
GT3's are legendary, but they are designed to excel on the track, and can also be thoroughly enjoyed on the road. But they can also be a handful on the track, where the Cayman is far more flattering (not to deceive
)The preference is merely a question of emphasis ....
I hear you - I'm in a little bit the same situation: the wife hates the 997RS...hence it's for sale.
If it goes, it'll make room for a Ferrari CS or 430 or a 964/993RS. She likes these.
But I wouldn't consider any other sports cars, it would really feel like a downgrade, GT3s are real beasts.
If I had to downgrade, then I'd go to something totally different, in my case G55, RR corniche or back to FFRange Rover supercharged.
A shame, but this is it. Good luck!
If it goes, it'll make room for a Ferrari CS or 430 or a 964/993RS. She likes these.
But I wouldn't consider any other sports cars, it would really feel like a downgrade, GT3s are real beasts.
If I had to downgrade, then I'd go to something totally different, in my case G55, RR corniche or back to FFRange Rover supercharged.
A shame, but this is it. Good luck!
Morning
Do you use it on track or is it just a bit of fun for the road? If the latter and it really is causing problems then why not get a 997 turbo? A fair bit more civilised, still a 911, laughably powerful when you boot it but it's much softer than the 3 and the R. In normal mode it's pretty comfortable and slightly firmer in sport mode so although it's a compromise it's a quick one.
I drove a GT3 and loved it, a Cayman R and loved it, a Turbo and bought it, just because it felt a better compromise for what I wanted. I don't track it though so if you do, ignore me.
Mat.
Do you use it on track or is it just a bit of fun for the road? If the latter and it really is causing problems then why not get a 997 turbo? A fair bit more civilised, still a 911, laughably powerful when you boot it but it's much softer than the 3 and the R. In normal mode it's pretty comfortable and slightly firmer in sport mode so although it's a compromise it's a quick one.
I drove a GT3 and loved it, a Cayman R and loved it, a Turbo and bought it, just because it felt a better compromise for what I wanted. I don't track it though so if you do, ignore me.
Mat.
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