New Rubber - 997 C2S

[gary_de_tam]

Hi All,

Anyone bought new tyres recently for their porkie and bettered
this deal from Event Tyres.

295/30 ZR19 100Y N1 x2
235/35 ZR19 87Y N1 x2

total = £1,130.50

Or recon I could better this price with another brand !?

TIA, gt....

[Gibbo205]

What brand?

[gary_de_tam]

O yeah !!! good point (PIRELLI PZERO ROSSO)

[sportsandclassic]

Hi,

Event tyres are pretty good on tyre price.

Mike

[LordHaveMurci]

gary_de_tam said:

O yeah !!! good point (PIRELLI PZERO ROSSO)

I changed from these on my 996 as I wasn't that impressed with them, especially in the wet.

[Gibbo205]

gary_de_tam said:

O yeah !!! good point (PIRELLI PZERO ROSSO)

Nooooo

I've had Pirelli Pzero ROSSO on mine, never again. In short they are OK in the dry, poor in the wet, do last well though, but I'd never buy them again.

Then had Michelin PS2's, these were superb in the dry, good in the wet.

Now on Michelin PSS (not n-rated), these are marginally better in dry over PS2, far superior in the wet and lifespan seems very impressive, after two trackdays and still 7mm on the rears. Also great car feel as well.

If your not under extended warranty or can get your OPC to agree to letting you fit them the PSS are an awsome tyre and I think I paid £1240 fitted from Event Tyres.

If you must go Pirelli then the PZERO is a lot better than the PZERO ROSSO. Pirelli's naming scheme is confusing but it goes:-
Pirelli CORSA (Hard to obtain - EOL)
Pirelli PZERO
Pirelli PZERO ROSSO
Pirelli PZERO NERO

[sportsandclassic]

Gibbo205 said:

Nooooo

I've had Pirelli Pzero ROSSO on mine, never again. In short they are OK in the dry, poor in the wet, do last well though, but I'd never buy them again.

Then had Michelin PS2's, these were superb in the dry, good in the wet.

Now on Michelin PSS (not n-rated), these are marginally better in dry over PS2, far superior in the wet and lifespan seems very impressive, after two trackdays and still 7mm on the rears. Also great car feel as well.

If your not under extended warranty or can get your OPC to agree to letting you fit them the PSS are an awsome tyre and I think I paid £1240 fitted from Event Tyres.



If you must go Pirelli then the PZERO is a lot better than the PZERO ROSSO. Pirelli's naming scheme is confusing but it goes:-
Pirelli CORSA (Hard to obtain - EOL)
Pirelli PZERO
Pirelli PZERO ROSSO
Pirelli PZERO NERO

I told you that those pirelli's were not the best choice of tyre .....

Mike

[911Thrasher]

Agree with the above after having PZeros on my 993 I've switch to Michelin.
Now running PS2s in winter and Cups in summer (997.1RS)

[markyboy911]

I moved from Michelin Pilot Sport N1 all round to Bridgestone S02A N3 all round. More than happy with the performance in the wet and dry. £750 for all four corners.

Bought from Micheldever but Kwik Fit are also doing 25% off so prices might be similar?

[khushy]

Pirrelli car tyres = se as motorbike tyres = good in the dry but crap in damp/wet conditions in my experience!

[knightriderx]

I've just bought a set of vredestien ultrac sessanta tyres for my 997s, total bill is approx £650 for a full set and from the reviews read they are on par or possibly a better tyre than the pirelli's, bridgestones and michellin's.

For 1/2 the price you can't go wrong (no opc warranty btw)

[V8Smith]

knightriderx said:

I've just bought a set of vredestien ultrac sessanta tyres for my 997s, total bill is approx £650 for a full set and from the reviews read they are on par or possibly a better tyre than the pirelli's, bridgestones and michellin's.

For 1/2 the price you can't go wrong (no opc warranty btw)

Interesting ... Where did you get them from and what are your thoughts on their performance compared to pilot sports...?

Cheers

Mike

[anonymous-user]

sportsandclassic said:

Gibbo205 said:

Nooooo

I've had Pirelli Pzero ROSSO on mine, never again. In short they are OK in the dry, poor in the wet, do last well though, but I'd never buy them again.

Then had Michelin PS2's, these were superb in the dry, good in the wet.

Now on Michelin PSS (not n-rated), these are marginally better in dry over PS2, far superior in the wet and lifespan seems very impressive, after two trackdays and still 7mm on the rears. Also great car feel as well.

If your not under extended warranty or can get your OPC to agree to letting you fit them the PSS are an awsome tyre and I think I paid £1240 fitted from Event Tyres.



If you must go Pirelli then the PZERO is a lot better than the PZERO ROSSO. Pirelli's naming scheme is confusing but it goes:-
Pirelli CORSA (Hard to obtain - EOL)
Pirelli PZERO
Pirelli PZERO ROSSO
Pirelli PZERO NERO

I told you that those pirelli's were not the best choice of tyre .....

Mike

I have Rosso's (N4) on my car now, and they've been fine in the wet soo far - what should I look out for?

I've seen this comment before a couple of times now. Are people expecting these tyres to perform equally in the wet and the dry? I have to say, if I have the car when it needs more rubber, I'll probably go for Yokos. They seem like a good compromise between cost and capability.

[Gibbo205]

coanda said:

I have Rosso's (N4) on my car now, and they've been fine in the wet soo far - what should I look out for?

I've seen this comment before a couple of times now. Are people expecting these tyres to perform equally in the wet and the dry? I have to say, if I have the car when it needs more rubber, I'll probably go for Yokos. They seem like a good compromise between cost and capability.

The MPSS gave me far superior grip in the wet over the Rossos which basically means you can go faster as that is what more grip allows.

In short in the dry the MPSS has more grip and more feel. More grip means higher speed before loss of adhesion and having more feel gives higher confidence which again means you feel confident to go faster. In the wet this is just amplified even more so.

Not just myself, Mike at Sports and Classic found the same, that the Pirellis are simply no match even for the old Michelin PS2 and the new MPSS is far superior.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Saturday 5th November 21:47

[Geneve]

I've always found tyre comparisons very subjective.

However, after umpteen Porsches since 1984, one area that does interest me is 'road noise'.

In the UK, our road surfaces use a noisier asphelt mix than the better European highways, and the harmonics transmit a lot more road noise to the cabin. This can also amplify resonances and rattles, and compromise the accoustics of the in-car sound system.

So, for road use, I would favour an 'approved' tyre with favourable noise levels.

[anonymous-user]

Gibbo205 said:

coanda said:

I have Rosso's (N4) on my car now, and they've been fine in the wet soo far - what should I look out for?

I've seen this comment before a couple of times now. Are people expecting these tyres to perform equally in the wet and the dry? I have to say, if I have the car when it needs more rubber, I'll probably go for Yokos. They seem like a good compromise between cost and capability.

The MPSS gave me far superior grip in the wet over the Rossos which basically means you can go faster as that is what more grip allows.

In short in the dry the MPSS has more grip and more feel. More grip means higher speed before loss of adhesion and having more feel gives higher confidence which again means you feel confident to go faster. In the wet this is just amplified even more so.

Not just myself, Mike at Sports and Classic found the same, that the Pirellis are simply no match even for the old Michelin PS2 and the new MPSS is far superior.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Saturday 5th November 21:47

Ok, I see what you are saying. Thanks.

[911Thrasher]

Geneve said:

In the UK, our road surfaces use a noisier asphelt mix than the better European highways, and the harmonics transmit a lot more road noise to the cabin.

You probably meant the UK road surfaces are noisier than the "worse" European highway (bear Belgium).
IMO we come 2nd worse or last in par w/ Belgium in terms of road infrastructure.