Cayman with Carrera S engine - thoughts?
Cayman with Carrera S engine - thoughts?
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kevinf1

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25 posts

186 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Hi All,

Well in my search for a 997 c2s I came across this which looks pretty interesting;

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3346977.htm

The review of a similar car in the US seemed very impressed with it, and it seems to be a lot more than just an engine transplant - brakes, suspension, LSD etc as well.

As someone new to Porsches I wanted to get the forums wisdom / opinions on this in terms of value for money, likely reliability etc.

Thanks

K

RudeDog

1,670 posts

205 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I think that it will be a fantastic car if its been put together right but I think you will really struggle to find buyers for it in a couple of years. Amari have had that car for ages already.

Generally a car with significant mods is worth the same or less than a stock car so on that basis, I reckon its at least £10K overpriced.

RudeDog

1,670 posts

205 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I've just had another look at those pics and the advert blurb. Something doesn't quite seem right.

The car appears to have a stock Cayman S exhaust tip yet the text says it has Exhaust mods. Why would someone mod the exhaust and leave the tips stock? On a stealth car maybe but not one that has been bodykitted.

sportsandclassic

3,774 posts

249 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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How does he get away with flying all those signs in background ?

MrSimba

343 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Can't believe thats still for sale my neighbour sent me a link to that about 3 months ago!

They've not dropped the price though so are just holding out for the 'right' buyer

Looks a stunning car smile

Dan7357

2,648 posts

239 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Shame Porsche never did that from factory!

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Dan7357 said:
Shame Porsche never did that from factory!
If they had done that where would that leave the 911 ?

On second thoughts , a two seater mid engined 3.8 911, and call the current 911 the Cayman thumbup

cragswinter

21,429 posts

227 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I saw that when I was down there-didn't even realise it had that engine in it-just thought it was a body kit special.

What would a standard car fetch? 30k? I don't think it's that far off the mark actually. Not sure about the body kit like others have said or the wheels in my eyes, but I think it'd make a great car for someone.

Fair enough it's gonna drop in depreciation but probably no more than a caymanR going by sone of the deals being given out by OPC's at the moment.

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

282 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I love the idea of a 3.8s engine in a Cayman at close to 400bhp this would make the Cayman quite quick. Other than the body kit which for me is horrible, the rake on the car looks wrong. The nose of the car looks too high to me.

Edited by Matt Seabrook on Saturday 26th November 17:03

kevinf1

Original Poster:

25 posts

186 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Thanks for the thoughts -

I think most of this echoes where I am - if done right this should be as reliable as a cayman / 911 as the engine is not much different from standard, its just in a different car.
While I am not to worried about depreciation I would like to have the option of selling without too much difficulty if for some reason I ever need to.

Overall I don't mind the look of the car, although as mentioned the front does look a little high, and I am tempted for the performance / handling. My head says to stick with the 997 c2s option though as that would realistically be nearly as quick, and likely just as good to drive while being a car I could keep when kids arrive - getting married next may so likely in the next couple of years - hence my concerns around resale.

I think if it was more like 35K I'd be more easily persuaded.. Decisions decisions eh! - I suppose I should be counting my blessings really - we are all very lucky to be able to own the cars we do aren't we!

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I REALLY like this!

Gibbo205

3,572 posts

238 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Hi there

Would and will be a truly epic car for sure.

However its over-priced. Secondly no OPC warranty, will Amari warranty cover an engine/IMS failure, yes the chances of it happening are very very slim, but it could and as such would Amari cover the cost and how long would the warranty be from them.

Without the backup of a decent warranty and at 10k above the going rate, this will be a hard car to sell which is evident as Amari have had this car for ages.

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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there is a bum for every seat!

Actus Reus

4,312 posts

186 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Very interesting, but a depreciation/resale nightmare, no warranty and, to my eyes, against a Cayman R, without a real point to its existence other than 'because we can'. I'd rather have a (newer), used R come the spring.

RudeDog

1,670 posts

205 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Waitforme said:
Dan7357 said:
Shame Porsche never did that from factory!
If they had done that where would that leave the 911 ?
Who would care if they were charging 911 money for a Cayman that had a 911 engine? They would probably make more sales because the car would be just as fast yet dynamically much better. The Cayman GT3 would be a superb car and I think it would sell well even if it was the same price as the 911 GT3. If they made it, they could probably charge more since it would likely be a far superior machine.

khooni

2,089 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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anyone consider how much it would cost to insure vs a standard CaymanS or R?

bet that's not going to be pretty

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

282 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Agreed insuring it correctly could be painful. I brought a Cayman because I wanted a Cayman and not a 911. Nothing against 911's I just like the Cayman better. A more powerful Cayman GT3 spec would be very desirable as far as I am concerned

johnag007

268 posts

272 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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P Used Car Locator (obviously you will find cheaper):

Cayman R £45k
Boxster Spyder £38k

As this is winter, the Cayman should be going £40k early Q2 next year which is when you could take advantage on these cars' performance, so all in the same ballpark.

This car really needs to be competitive against these 2 models, and at present it is not really unless you are specifically going to track it, in which case the alloys are the lightest on the market, the engine by far the most powerful,...

Even if you do track it though, remember that the key is enjoyment, which still means you need to get a feel for it compared to the other 2.

I would have no problem buying it if it was VERY well sorted, as long as I knew I would keep it.

Sincerely,

JAG

cpufreak

478 posts

239 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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interesting..



Advert said:
THE HUGE MODIFICATION, WAS A PORSCHE X51 3.8L CARRERA "S" ENGINE WITH 380BHP, TUNED AND BUILT BY THE ROAD RACE AMERICAN TUNING COMPANY "FARNBACHER LOLES", THE ENGINE WAS SHIPPED TO THE UK AND FITTED ALONG WITH THE LSD BY PORSCHE COLCHESTER. THIS GIVES THE CAR A TRULY OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE VERY LITTLE SHORT OF A 911 TURBO!! OTHER MODS ARE:
FULL BODY STYLING BY "FARNBACHER" INC: FRONT AND REAR BUMPERS,
REAR AND FRONT SPOILER,
CARBON MIRRORS,
SIDE VENTS,
LOWERED SUSPENSION
AND EXHAUST MODS.
Now read this:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/ct/Press2011/20110726-...


I would stay well away.

daveyb662

1,722 posts

196 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Interesting indeed.

But why would that make you stay away...shouldn't take anything away from the engines...