996 RS that will not buff out.
996 RS that will not buff out.
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Dan7357

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2,648 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3403649.htm

£32,995!!!

I could be wrong but there looks to be £15k+ in work to get it right, so it will owe £48k+. £10-15k more will get you a straight one.


Slippydiff

16,483 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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It's a Cat D total loss for a reason . . . .

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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repairable track-only car?


cragswinter

21,429 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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khushy said:
repairable track-only car?
Or buy a straight un-crashed standard gt3 for the same money. Rediculous

996TT_STEVO

4,078 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Look like AGTLAW's car making an appearance again... it was on eBay recently

996TT_STEVO

4,078 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Happened at Spa last year

Dan7357

Original Poster:

2,648 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Prices -

RS rear spoiler ?£5k
RS front PU ?£2.5k
Rear PU ?£1000
Headlight ?
Alloy(s) ?
Rear light ?
Boot lid ?
Rear Quarter ?
Fuel cap ?

And that only what you can see...

Shadow62

1,083 posts

241 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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The advert reads as though most parts are included in the sale.


Dan7357

Original Poster:

2,648 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Shadow62 said:
The advert reads as though most parts are included in the sale.
You can read it both ways..

mollytherocker

14,470 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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That doesnt look too bad actually, more of a glancing blow?

However, its the price of parts that will be the issue, not necessarily the labour.

MTR

noneedtolift

888 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Don't think it looks TOO bad either. Will need to go on the jig for sure though. With Porsches, crash damage can also be very deceptive - the damage on my car was solely done to the front - until I discovered two little kinks next to the rear screen and subsequently found out that the wiplash effect on the engine had bent the rear end, too...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Slippydiff said:
It's a Cat D total loss for a reason . . . .
the cost to settle the claim was more than the worth of the car?

that's to say it isn't the same as the car is an uneconomical repair, that's a bit speculative H smile

add in street/track furniture repair, hire car charges, car recovery and storage costs, legal fees, injury compo, etc, etc and the bills really do rack up

BertBert

21,336 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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It can't possibly make financial sense. It'll cost a lot to fix and it'll be Cat D, so resell hell.

If it made financial sense, then they'd do it. I'm wondering how far they drove it to check the suspension with 2 flat tyres!

Bert

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

262 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Its a shame but i dont think that it makes sense to buy it. If its a track only option, it would be cheaper to go for a 996 cup and as said earlier, as a road option, it will be difficult to sell. As previously posted, I think that a straight MK1 or MK2 would be a better buy

keep it lit

3,388 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Edited by keep it lit on Tuesday 15th November 17:05

Tino

1,948 posts

314 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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They're a dealer. To repair this cost effectively, you would need to source used parts privately. Not many dealers would want to leake 32k tied in, for possibly six months to throw in 10k to the repair to make an extra 3-4k(selling a cat D £40k car is never going to be easy)
As a private individual, with a few contacts in the trade, a bit of work and research, used parts accumulation etc, I reckon that can be had on the road for around £40k(less if you own a bodyshop, or are able to complete some of the work yourself)
Whats a gook one cost? 60-65k? And then you still don't know the history, could have sustained more damage but be unrecorded.
Granted, it will always be a Cat D, but run it for a couple of years, and you would probably see most, if not all of your money back

Slippydiff

16,483 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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sleep envy said:
the cost to settle the claim was more than the worth of the car?

that's to say it isn't the same as the car is an uneconomical repair, that's a bit speculative H smile

add in street/track furniture repair, hire car charges, car recovery and storage costs, legal fees, injury compo, etc, etc and the bills really do rack up
I'm not sure that those costs are taken into consideration when it somes to assessing whether or not the car itself is a total loss ? I suspect not.

The Mk1 996 GT3 salvage that was on Ebay recently had massive amounts of damage that the images displayed by the vendor could not and did not convey.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-996-GT3-SALVAGE-...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Yes cars such as these cars can be fixed "relatively" cheaply.
But repaired by an OPARC (Official Porsche Accident Repair Centre), with a fully warranted repair to Porsche AGs standards and no chances taken on the replacement of any suspect components (AND only using new components) they can't.

I happen to know the repair figures quoted by the OPARC for the repair to the Mk 1 GT3 on Ebay. It'd make your eyes water . . .

The RS in question has a lot of miles (relative to the other cars on the market) which will have played a part in it ending up a cat D total loss.

I've not inspected the advert pictures really closely, but I suspect there's chunk missing out of the o/s/f wheel rim.
Most OPARC would see that as a cue to replace all the suspension on that corner AND the steering rack AND if they had sufficient grounds to suspect the front subframe was in ANY way damaged, replace that too. Added to which IF the front subframe IS damaged, the car would need to be put on a jig to ensure all is true chassis/shell wise.

And this is where opinions differ. The person that wants a cheap track car will be happy to buy second hand parts or risk using what's already on there. Insurers and OPARC don't have that option.





Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 15th November 14:33

Dan7357

Original Poster:

2,648 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Whats the cost of a GT3 shell? Would having the car re shelled not be an idea?


Slippydiff

16,483 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Dan7357 said:
Whats the cost of a GT3 shell? Would having the car re shelled not be an idea?
They're no longer available.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Slippydiff said:
I'm not sure that those costs are taken into consideration when it somes to assessing whether or not the car itself is a total loss ? I suspect not.
They are, speaking from painful experience.

I don't doubt what you say but the point I was making is that it's not just the cost of a repair that dictates whether a car is classed as Cat D or not.

smile