Any advice welcome!
Any advice welcome!
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3 car ed

Original Poster:

1,620 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Hi all, for my first Porsche being 23 when I got it I went for a 2.5 Boxster. As I have had it for a year or so now i was wondering if there is any performance improvments that any one can recomend and is it worth it or would it be better to sell it and get another with a larger engine?


MrTickle

1,825 posts

270 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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3 car ed said:
sell it and get another with a larger engine?
This!

You will get very small gains from mods to a NA 2.5 engine, and the mods will potentially harm the residual value of the car, doubling the cost of anything you do.

Look for a nice sweet 3.2 to jump in to.

smile

nickfrog

25,447 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Driver training is usually the best VFM performance gain and you can keep it when you change cars !

ajh38

902 posts

181 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Yeah get a 3.2! You will not regret one moment of it. Any insurance cost can't match the fun gained!

Koing

442 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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ajh38 said:
Yeah get a 3.2! You will not regret one moment of it. Any insurance cost can't match the fun gained!
I don't know mate...

When I was 23, M3 insurance was ridiculous...it was like £4-5k, license since 18, no points but only 2yrs NCB on my own car. I went for an S2000 and paid £1250 insurance instead. I couldn't stomach paying £4-5k to be insured to drive a car! £3k funds a very nice holiday!

Koing

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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trackdays + a proper instructor will help you become smoother, faster & safer - the car is irrelevant (on the road anyway) - assuming of course you dont drive like Miss Daisy!!!

you could also learn to ride a motorbike - will help with smoothness, observation and finding the right line!

khushy

mrdemon

21,146 posts

296 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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nickfrog said:
Driver training is usually the best VFM performance gain and you can keep it when you change cars !
Does that help at the traffic light GP ? lol

Driver traing is such a dull answer,

yes needed for track work to help find the 2 seconds where a pro driver is faster round Donnington.

But FFS Driver training is not going to help you get that push in the back at 40Mph lol.
Also I have seen people on track days who have had 30+ lessons but still slow as fook.

Only way to get better in a car is to drive more miles, it's that simple, then when you are at one with a car and cannot find why you are 2 seconds off the pace get some training.

3 car ed

Original Poster:

1,620 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Cool, thanks for the help there. Driving the miles is no problem due to work doing many miles in both the Porsche and company car.
By the sound of it, it will be back to the savings then and getting the 3.2 if the insurance is not to steep other wise it will have to wait a few years! frown Just hope it doesnt come to that!

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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ok - honing your driving skills wont give you that kick in the back - but it sure will make driving your fav roads more fun - which is car irrelevant!

Sometimes less is more - a good driver in a st car can be a lot quicker than a st driver in a quick car over the same route - FACT!

Driving enjoyment is much more than a kick in the back and at the OP's age, factoring in insurance hikes, costs etc etc - better to learn these valuable driving/control skills now rather than trying to rectify bad habits later or mask them with an all singing all dancing speed machine!

thegoose

8,077 posts

241 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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khushy said:
- better to learn these valuable driving/control skills now rather than trying to rectify bad habits later or mask them with an all singing all dancing speed machine!
Not to mention the safety aspect - the better you can drive the more chance you have of being around to enjoy more cars in the future (and properly exploit their potential). smile

ajh38

902 posts

181 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Surely it can't be too much in insurance going from a 2.5 to a 3.2 and you've got another years driving experience and ncb to go with it.

993AL

1,939 posts

249 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Iv'e read on here that the 2.7 is a better engine than the 3.2 with not a huge loss in performance. I dont know how they compare for insurance costs etc but maybe worth looking at?

gadgetJunky72

154 posts

207 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Hi,

I have a 997 that (for some reason) i'm really bored off and have been thinking about what to replace it with.

I've now come to the conclusion that i'm in this situation because i'm unable to exploit what the car is capable of. So the next step for me is to get some driver training rather than buy a car with more POWER (as Clarkson would say).

Your next car is always going to have the potential of being a costly mistake. Surely its worth spending a bit (£200 - £500) on training first and if that doesn't help you to enjoy the car more then look for something else.

HoHoHo

15,401 posts

281 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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gadgetJunky72 said:
I have a 997
Nice, very capable car yes

gadgetJunky72 said:
I've now come to the conclusion that i'm in this situation because i'm unable to exploit what the car is capable of.
I understand exactly what you're saying and my advice would be go on a track day.

I've taken mine to Goodwood a few times and it amazes me how much more capable the car is than I think it is. It then follows (without putting life in danger and being a complete tt on the Queens highway), you can drive with more confidence on your way to Tesco's or whatever and the car is instantly more fun.

Track days are a pretty cheap way of having a lot of fun, driving as fast as you are comfortable with in an safe environment and if you wish, in your own car which allows you to 'bond' with it so to speak.

khushy

3,984 posts

250 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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anonymous said:
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go polish your helmsmet!!!

wink